<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Here’s another followup dialog_iemgui cleanup proof of concept: <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/danomatika/23423140732/in/datetaken-public" class="">https://www.flickr.com/photos/danomatika/23423140732/in/datetaken-public</a><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I mainly cleaned up inconsistencies, alignment, & a few bugs (vu scale/no_scale button not wide enough, preview & label name font size mismatch). Overall, clicking on things doesn’t result in the dialog changing size too much. I also try to more closely match dialog_gatom.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The new label & header texts are generated in the tcl using the $mainheader value. Hopefully there is some mechanism to handle these in tcl via gettext & the .po files, but I haven’t looked into it yet. </div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">:)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Didn’t take much code to change, really. I’ll check again about focus highlight on buttons since, on OSX at least, you can toggle buttons with the spacebar but you can’t tell which one you’re on.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve also been playing around with cleaning up the iemgui dialog. I added tooltips to the parameter buttons since I never remember what they do exactly. (Can’t catch those in a screenshot since the window loses focus to the OS and the tooltips disappear.) A deeper update is to remove sending headers from C and just send a iemgui type string aka “tgl”, “cnv”, etc which can then be used to decide on widget generation aka sliders take 2 dimensions and tgl on 1. That would make the code creating the widgets for the Dimensions, Range, and Parameter frames more readable too. For now, I’ll just use the mainheader string to try it out.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anyway, time for bed. I’ll throw up what I’ve done into a branch on the pure-data Github repo for easy perusal and patch generation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">(Also thank the University of Denver and it’s quarter system for a good chunk of research time right now. :D)</div><div class=""> <span id="cid:24ECC561-7ADE-4809-8A5B-046FD66E54F4@hsd1.co.comcast.net."><Screen Shot 2015-12-04 at 4.24.25 AM.png></span><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:27 AM, Simon Iten <<a href="mailto:itensimon@gmail.com" class="">itensimon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">this should be default on all platforms :-)<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 04 Dec 2015, at 09:55, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think I’ve basically got it working well for dialog_gatom: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZCjgIFMc9g" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZCjgIFMc9g</a><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The entry widgets now unbind the enter key from closing the dialog when they receive focus and then rebind it after they lose it. This allows for editing and tabbing through all the entry boxes. Also, I enabled activation of the OK button when the dialog box will close on Enter to make this interchange much more obvious. Consequently, I removed the Cancel button form the focus list since it’s activated on the Escape key anyway (and OSX does keyboard button pressed via Spacebar anyway).</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 3, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Ok, I have it working in the canvas dialog.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I basically unbind KeyPress_Enter from closing the dialog and then bind ::dialog_canvas::apply to Return in all the entry boxes as well as the equivalent to the checkbuttons. This is only enabled for OSX, so other platforms are untouched. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s pretty nice, actually, since you can just tab to things and make updates with the keyboard only. One issue is that the buttons curreently don’t display a focus highlight. I’ll look into that and updating the other dialogs.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 3, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">“switch to linux” … real helpful :P<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I brought this up recently on pd-dev: <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2015-11/020478.html" class="">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2015-11/020478.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The curent situation is a bit half-way as the button was removed to match the Apple Human Interface Guidelines (aka persistent changes are saved by default, hence no “Apply” button). The problem is that updates are not applied until *after* the dialog is closed. This means making small GOP changes, for instance, is a pain in the ass since you have to keep opening and closing the dialog. IMO this works *against* the HIG as is far worse than simply having a button.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are two solutions:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. simply bring back the Apply button on OSX, I did this on my version of Vanilla by commenting out some if statements in the tcl code</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. add apply code in the tcl to update the canvas/gui object whenever changes are applied to any text box in the dialog</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ll look into option 2 as it’s really the best solution.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 3, 2015, at 10:11 AM, <a href="mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at" class="">pd-list-request@lists.iem.at</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);" class=""><b class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">IOhannes m zmoelnig <<a href="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at" class="">zmoelnig@iem.at</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);" class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">December 3, 2015 at 4:57:04 AM MST<br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);" class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" class="">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(127, 127, 127);" class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [PD] Apply button missing from properties in 0.46.7</b><br class=""></span></div><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 2015-12-03 12:41, Si Mills wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Hi<br class=""><br class="">Is the omission of the Apply btn in the properties dialogues (present in<br class="">Pd-extended) a feature of latest vanilla build or a bug?<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">a feature¹.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://lists.puredata.info/namazu/pd-list/namazu.cgi?query=apply+button" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://lists.puredata.info/namazu/pd-list/namazu.cgi?query=apply+button</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">gsdfmt</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">IOhannes</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">¹ that should go away. in the meantime you could switch to linux where</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">there *is* an apply button.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class=""><a href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" class="">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br class="">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" class="">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>