<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>Well, there's also a pdtcl external for loading code written in tcl.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449526850975_2809"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449526850975_2810">I guess I'm curious what you mean by "native" here.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449526850975_2877" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449526850975_2881" dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449526850975_2808"><span></span></div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, December 7, 2015 4:52 PM, Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton@gmail.com> wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container">On 07/12/15 22:39, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:<br clear="none">> Hi Lorenzo,<br clear="none">>       There's pdlua.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Pd Vanilla now includes deken, so if you want to package and maintain<br clear="none">> pdlua it will then become "native".<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I admit I haven't looked at deken yet. But isn't using externals kinda <br clear="none">"cheating" about "nativeness"?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I wonder if something similar to the gui-plugins would allow to use tcl <br clear="none">in specially named objects such as:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">[tcl mytclabstraction]<br clear="none"><br clear="none">and then that would use mytclabstraction.tcl<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Lorenzo.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> -Jonathan<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On Monday, December 7, 2015 4:25 PM, Lorenzo Sutton<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.com" href="mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.com">lorenzofsutton@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> On 07/12/15 17:26, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:<br clear="none">>  > It's not possible with Vanilla objects.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> In 2016 it would really be nice for Pd *Vanilla* to allow *natively* the<br clear="none">> use of some scripting language. My personal fav would be Python, but I'd<br clear="none">> be happy with anything really...<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> After the heated debates about luscious beizer curved chords and<br clear="none">> gradients in 2013, I this is still miss this feature more than any sexy<br clear="none">> GUI - :-)<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Lorenzo.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> <mailto:<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>> mailing list<div class="yqt4810357898" id="yqtfd77301"><br clear="none">> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -><br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br clear="none">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a shape="rect" href="http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  </div></div></body></html>