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Good Idea William but i always thought things like Pure Data were there SO we could develop said products. And i DO boot windows for Touch Designer but frankly little else. I took the leap and moved to Macintosh when PD was released and have always dual booted
linux:Ubuntu on it.<br>
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I have also found the proprietary features are rarely "all that"<br>
I did recently on a whim buy a KARP Odyssesy but mostly because it had a CVin/out TrigI/O and GateI/O
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<div><font size="3"><i>Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A</i></font></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@mail.iem.at> on behalf of phil jones <interstar@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 22, 2016 6:14:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> William Huston<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pd-list@lists.iem.at<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] Slightly OT: Goal for NAMM 2017: Pledge to Support Open Source</font>
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have you thought of trying one of the "make a petition" sites, like <a href="https://www.change.org/">
https://www.change.org/</a> , <a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/media-arts-culture/">
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/media-arts-culture/</a> , .<a href="http://www.avaaz.org/en/">http://www.avaaz.org/en/</a> etc?<br>
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<div>If one of these platforms were suitable to host it then that would definitely help.<br>
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<div>Thanks for all who responded with early feedback :)<br>
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I think the plan should be<br>
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1) Form a small committee to draft the <br>
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with the target being <b>manufactures of synthesizers,<br>
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2) Recruit the Top 10 or 25 big names to sign on to the letter. <br>
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<div>3) A general petition for all others. <br>
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<div>Thanks!!<br>
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<div>I will totally sign a petition on this. And forward it to every musician I know.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div><span><span>I hope you all consider this an appropriate post for</span></span> this list.
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<span><span>I have been very upset at a certain manufacturer</span></span><span><span> which I have decades of experience owning their products.
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<div><span><span>I love their machines! But they are pissing me off by doing things like:<br>
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<div><b><span><span>1) Bundle software which only runs on Proprietary Operating Systems.<br>
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This is an excuse to increase street price. Linux users who want just the hardware are forced to pay for something they do not want and cannot use.
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<div><span><span><span><span><b>2) Publishing only a partial MIDI implementation<br>
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<div><span><span><span><span><b>3) Using a secret API</b> which only their <b>closed source Editor</b> can access, and which only runs on
<b>Windows or MacOS</b>. ($$$). <br>
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<div><span><span><span><span>So <b>if I want a Korg product</b> (like their new Microkey Studio!!! I have the perfect application for this!!!),
<b>then I must also pay Microsoft or Apple, in order to fully use the thing</b>. I must also must pay a premium for software I cannot use and may not want or need.<br>
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<div><b><span><span><span><span>I do not think this is fair or right!<br>
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Here's an idea: <br>
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NAMM is going on right now. This is a time when all of the manufacturers all get together.
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I think the Open Source community has a lot of clout now. <br>
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My idea is to draft a <b>Pledge to Support Open Source Community</b>, which we will try to get manufacturers support for by the next 2017 NAMM.
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My list so far is this: <br>
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1) <b>Publish full MIDI standard. </b><b>No hidden APIs </b>which only closed-source tools, which only run on Windows or Mac can access.<br>
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2) <b>Unbundle the hardware from the optional software</b>. Don't force a linux hardware owner to pay for software he cannot use.
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3) Consider including <b>sample editors </b>or <b>performance programs </b>as hackable
<b>C programs,</b> <b>Perl </b>or <b>Python </b>scripts, and also <b>sample patches
</b>in popular <b>open-source music programs </b>such as <b>CSound, SuperCollider</b>, or
<b>Pure Data</b>. <br>
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<div><span><span>Does anyone want to be a co-signer on this,<br>
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<div><b><span><span>I think it would be awesome to get the top 10-20 people<br>
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<div><span><span>People like <b>Miller, Onyx Ashanti, Ico, Julius O. Smith, <br>
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<div><b><span><span>Servando, Katja, Alexandre, Matt, IOhannes, Cheeto,<br>
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<div><span><span><b>Richard Stallman</b>, ... c'mon people, help me out... <br>
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Wow, that would pack a whallop! <br>
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<div><span><span>I think we could have a major impact on hardware manufacturers. <br>
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This is a way for me to take my complaint with Korg and make this a campaign which could help users of other H/W vendors stuff as well.
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<div><span><span>Thoughts? <br>
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