<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">[gt~] is a great example of something that could work as an abstraction, except for the pesky right inlet which should take a signal if there's no creation argument, but float otherwise.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Ivica Bukvic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank">ico@vt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">What I am also trying to do eventually in pd-l2ork is weed out redundant objects and only keep the ones that do the said task the best while still supporting other objects' idiosyncrasies (if any). There is absolutely no reason to have multiple objects of the same kind. Ultimately, one could keep all the externals in the same folder and completely do away with all the declares, imports, and other things that make learning pd unnecessarily harder.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 14, 2016 8:40 AM, "Fred Jan Kraan" <<a href="mailto:fjkraan@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">fjkraan@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Alexandre,<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
guess some of it is in:<br>
<a href="http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/cycloneToDo.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/cycloneToDo.html</a><br>
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<br>
This list is also becoming a list of what has been done.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
As with _nettles_<br>
<br>
"try to resurrect as independent object library"<br>
<br>
Anyway, tell me if this gets includes on this file.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, the nettles-objects are part of the latest cyclone versions. They are part of the nettles library, which can be loaded with [declare]. Not all operating systems like the '<' and '>' in the object names and there is overlap with other library objects, so only loading them when needed is cleaner.<br>
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<br>
cheers<br>
<br>
ps. count me in for help with the help files<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Great!<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
<br>
Fred Jan<br>
<br>
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2016-02-11 22:18 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>>>:<br>
<br>
Howdy, it's a known fact brazilians will start the year only after<br>
carnival, so here I am.<br>
<br>
I'd like to share my list of things to do with existing Cyclone<br>
Objetcs. Obviously there might be other issues with other objects<br>
that would make them up to date with the current version of Max (Max<br>
7). Nonetheless, this is what I find relevant, and I've been really<br>
checking it through.<br>
<br>
It's only about 11 objects, some has already been discussed here and<br>
might have been fixed or in the process to be taken care of, forgive<br>
me if so.<br>
<br>
I have it attached and also as a link to a google doc<br>
<br>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L_dUNgznfhaZHPKMJ3jJ_p9uIXRVP6Rs9-3nXy2Qlk8/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L_dUNgznfhaZHPKMJ3jJ_p9uIXRVP6Rs9-3nXy2Qlk8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
<br>
Next, I will get together a list of new objects I think should be<br>
included, many of which I've already made as abstractions (kind of<br>
to show how it works like I did with [teeth~], cause I really think<br>
they should all be done as externals).<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
<br>
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