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<p>I think this is what Jaron Lanier may call "Lock-in"<br>
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<div><font size="3"><i>Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A</i></font></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@mail.iem.at> on behalf of Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@vt.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pd-list@mail.iem.at<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] Help Patches Layout</font>
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<div>Here's my $0-cents worth. This is an eternal struggle in the world'o'comp sci. We need to wrap our heads around the fact that 0 is the 1st number in any kind of data container, whether it be value or ordinal position. Yet, as humans we prefer 1 to be that
first number, reserving 0 as the special case value. So, you could make the case either way arguing for consistency, intuitiveness, aliens, whatever. Another consideration within the pd* ecosystem is that it is 0-centric, meaning things tend to start with
$0 (patch instance) before they get to $1. Then again, $1 refers to the first arg, so you could argue it may be inconsistent... etc. etc. etc.<br>
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On the practical side, renaming inlets would mean going through every last help file and ensuring it has been updated accordingly, otherwise you would be just adding to more confusion as newcomers learn that some help files refer to the first inlet as 0 and
others as 1...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/17/2016 11:49 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:<br>
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<div>I'm with Porres in Cyclone maintenance working on revision of some Help patches.</div>
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<div>The question is: Why count inlets and outlets from zero if Pd user have to call inlets and outlets from $1 $2 $3... ? For help patch user don't be more convenient enumerate inlets and outlets starting at number 1?</div>
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