<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px">Let's wait to see if we ever get a bug report about that. AFAICT Pd-l2ork loads what needs to be loaded-- "susceptible to" isn't a good reason to awaken the makefile monster.<br><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459871984637_5095"><br><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459871984637_5353"><span>-Jonathan</span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:38 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@vt.edu> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2947318581"><div>
Another thought could be having hexloader be folded into core pd...
It is currently autoloaded in pd-l2ork but that approach is still
susceptible to overrides to the default config. Perhaps we should
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<div class="yiv2947318581gmail_quote">2016-04-05 5:08 GMT-03:00 Roman
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you're simply interested in knowing how things work
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<div>I'd love to know, for sure, that's why I'm asking :)</div>
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<div>You see, I don't really get what you mean by
"hexloader" or its related kludges. All I know is some
[hexloader] object that is in my pd extended 0.42-5, and
all I know is that I need to use it in order to load the
[==~] object from zexy. What you're talking about,
somehow, relates to that? </div>
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<div>Anyway, seems so to me... and if so, the thing is
that what I'm asking and doing has nothing to do with
"hexloader"... (I never even mentioned about
"hexloader", btw) ... and I read about the "hex loader"
discussion as suggested, and found stuff that I didn't
really think was related to my questions. Yeah, like I
said, I don't really know much and I'd like to know, so
I might be missing something, and someone can help me
with it...</div>
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<div>But the thing is, all I asked was how to compile an
object like [==~] and make it load without being part of a
library. I found on deken a zexy version that seemed to do
that (specifically: <span style="font-size:12.8px;"><i>zexy-v0-0extended-(Darwin-</i></span><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><span style="font-style:italic;font-size:12.8px;">i386-32)(Darwin-PowerPC-32)(</span><span style="font-style:italic;font-size:12.8px;">Darwin-x86_64-32)-externals.</span><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><i>tar</i>). And it didn't
need a [hexloader] object too, by the way.</span></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><span style="font-size:12.8px;">I didn't get an answer, but
me and my colleague were checking the source code from
zexy and found some cues. We tried it... and it works!</span></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px;"><span style="font-size:12.8px;">Now I have an object that is
compiled as [==~], it's not part of a library, and it
loads and works on pd vanilla 0.46-7 64 bits, </span></span><span style="font-size:12.8px;">pd vanilla </span><span style="font-size:12.8px;">0.46-7 32 bits</span><span style="font-size:12.8px;"> and also Pd-Extended 0.42-5 (<b><u>without</u></b> the
need of the [hexloader] object by the way). </span><span style="font-size:12.8px;">All you need is the
==~.pd_darwin object in a search path.</span></div>
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<div>Speaking and thinking as a user, I think it is easy and
great to have a working and compiled object that just
loads and works, so that is what I 'm after.</div>
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<div>But anyway, yeah, I wanna know what are the dangers and
all...</div>
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<div>cheers</div>
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