<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29615"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29614">I don't think that's backwards compatible. For example-- if the user isn't </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29003">loading cyclone by default, and their patch does this:</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29147"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29040">[declare -lib cyclone/Scope~]</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29196"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29068">[Scope~]</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29068"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29068">***</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29069"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">If by "traded" you mean you renamed the binary to scope~.pd_linux, this won't load anymore.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">I'd actually be in favor of breaking that compatibility if there were a way to </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">get rid of all those capital letters from cyclone. However, you still need </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">"Append" to differentiate from the internal "append" class, so you can't </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">change that one.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">Also-- why is there a class_addcreator to add "cyclone/*" for each class? </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">That _should_ be superfluous...</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29193">-Jonathan</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29194"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29194"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_29332"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_30122"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460134935520_30123"><br></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, April 8, 2016 2:21 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv1082573055"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv1082573055gmail_extra"><div class="yiv1082573055gmail_quote">2016-04-06 18:53 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:porres@gmail.com">porres@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv1082573055gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv1082573055gmail_extra"><div class="yiv1082573055gmail_quote"><div>And what would change if the official name restores to scope~ (with Scope~ being called the way "scope~" is now?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Well, I tested it here... I traded it for the opposite. I changed "Scope~" to "scope~" and made it instantiate as Scope~ as well for backwards compatibility. Works fine.</div><div class="yiv1082573055yqt8246692532" id="yiv1082573055yqtfd28375"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>cheers</div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="yqt8246692532" id="yqtfd27460">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br clear="none">UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a shape="rect" href="https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" target="_blank">https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>