<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17094" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17093" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8716" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8715" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8714" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=""><div class="yiv1892175988y_msg_container" id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8713"><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_11021" class="">Looking at the acconnect code as well as the Pd diff that got rid of the autoconnect code, it looks like it's </div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17180" class="">pretty easy to list i/o port info.<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>yes, all of the commands work fine except "aconnect -l”. At least it didn’t the last time I tried which is when I gave up. I am away from my linux machine right now, but I can try tomorrow.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17094" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17093" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8716" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8715" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8714" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=""><div class="yiv1892175988y_msg_container" id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8713"><div class="yiv1892175988yqt2732106816" id="yiv1892175988yqtfd51397"><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_9660" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17489" class="">> I however, don’t know either if this is an issue for anybody else…</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17490" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17491" dir="ltr" class="">It'd be helpful to know whether it's a general issue or not. </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I agree…</div><div><br class=""></div><div>J</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17094" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17093" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8716" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8715" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=""><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8714" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=""><div class="yiv1892175988y_msg_container" id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_8713"><div class="yiv1892175988yqt2732106816" id="yiv1892175988yqtfd51397"><div id="yiv1892175988yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_9660" class=""><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17491" dir="ltr" class="">If it is a general issue then Pd will almost <br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17492" dir="ltr" class="">certainly inherit those problems if I add the functionality I want. aconnect is about as simple a wrapper <br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17493" dir="ltr" class="">around alsa's API as you can get.<br class=""></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461259452221_17494" class=""><br class=""></div></div>(> and !>) best,<br clear="none" class="">J<br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class="">> On Apr 21, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Miller Puckette <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:msp@ucsd.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:msp@ucsd.edu" class="">msp@ucsd.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="">> <br clear="none" class="">> I don't know of any reason this can't be done. The main alsa api limitation<br clear="none" class="">> that has stopped me is: Not Worth the Hassle. That, however, is subjective -<br clear="none" class="">> if you indeed want to attack it I'll be glad to see it (and perhaps even<br clear="none" class="">> borrow it into vanilla if you're game).<br clear="none" class="">> <br clear="none" class="">> cheers<br clear="none" class="">> Miller<br clear="none" class="">> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 02:25:26PM +0000, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:<br clear="none" class="">>> <br clear="none" class="">>> On Thursday, April 21, 2016 3:39 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at" class="">zmoelnig@iem.at</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="">>> <br clear="none" class="">>> <br clear="none" class="">>> On 2016-04-21 06:38, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:<br clear="none" class="">>>>> Why can't alsa midi report "connectable" devices inside Pd, to <br clear="none" class="">>>>> be displayed in a dropdown?<br clear="none" class="">>> <br clear="none" class="">>>> because nobody has implemeted it.<br clear="none" class="">>> <br clear="none" class="">>> I'm mainly fishing for any potential alsa api limitations that would make <br clear="none" class="">>> doing what I want very difficult or impossible. Like "it garbles the device <br clear="none" class="">>> names", or "crashes every Tuesday", etc.<br clear="none" class="">>> -Jonathan<br clear="none" class="">>> <br clear="none" class="">> <br clear="none" class="">>> _______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="">>> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" class="">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br clear="none" class="">>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" class="">https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><div class="yiv1892175988qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div><div class="yiv1892175988yqt0200254935" id="yiv1892175988yqtfd89289"><br clear="none" class="">> <br clear="none" class="">> <br clear="none" class="">> _______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" class="">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> mailing list<br clear="none" class="">> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list" class="">https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list</a><br clear="none" class=""></div><br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""></div></div><div class="yiv1892175988yqt2732106816" id="yiv1892175988yqtfd24942"> </div></div><div class="yiv1892175988yqt2732106816" id="yiv1892175988yqtfd07693"> </div></div><div class="yiv1892175988yqt2732106816" id="yiv1892175988yqtfd20475"> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>