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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><br>Thanks for the tip Patrick.<br>The prospect of having to compile sounds scary to non-developer ears... We really do operate in a slightly naive way, without any deep acquaintance with the even the most basic inner workings of Linux. <br>So I believe I will migrate the school's system to L2Ork and switch to Vanilla for the rest of the team.<br><br>Cheers!<br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu<br>To: eransachs@hotmail.com<br>CC: jancsika@yahoo.com; hansw.koch@gmail.com; pd-list@mail.iem.at<br>Subject: Re: [PD] Collaborating across systems/platforms<br>Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 03:23:34 +0000<br><br>
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On May 13, 2016, at 10:33 PM, Eran Sachs <<a href="mailto:eransachs@hotmail.com">eransachs@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Well, we were unable to install the latest PD-extended on newer OSXs, and reverting to older versions of extended, coupled with the knowledge that this is an unmaintained software caused some frustration. Consequently, every encounter with disparity
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<div>We actually didn't try all working on vanilla and adding the libs manually. I think I'm gonna follow Hans' and Patrick's suggestion, which seems like a very basic and reasonable approach. </div>
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Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 01:56:26 +0000<br>
From: <a href="mailto:jancsika@yahoo.com">jancsika@yahoo.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:hansw.koch@gmail.com">hansw.koch@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:eransachs@hotmail.com">
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Subject: Re: [PD] Collaborating across systems/platforms<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2">On Friday, May 13, 2016 8:26 PM, hans w. koch <<a href="mailto:hansw.koch@gmail.com">hansw.koch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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> Am 14.05.2016 um 02:23 schrieb hans w. koch <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:hansw.koch@gmail.com">hansw.koch@gmail.com</a>>:<br clear="none">
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> the whole issue has become A LOT easier with the new vanilla version of pd on millers site (Pd 0.47.0)<br clear="none">
> (at least on os x, where i work). it comes with deken preinstalled, whoch is going to replace pd extended or already has.<br clear="none">
> from the help menu choose "find externals“ the e.g. put „iem_ambi“ in the search field and voila, it lists, whats avaiable ( i see newer windows builds too).<br clear="none">
> you can then install witha a simple click and bang, ready. (iem_ambis help patch has dependencies on other iem stuff, so you´d need those too).<br clear="none">
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>> I wanted to share a little predicament I've encountered, and ask for your input and advice. The issue has to do with working across several platforms.
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>> Over the past year I have launched and supervised a little workgroup in the new Program for Experimental Music we are running in Jerusalem. We wanted to get our ears and heads around ambisonics and experiment a little. The group consists of several musicians,
mostly MAX users, working on different systems (OSXs, me on Windows - none of us is an experienced Linux user). Our aim was to be able to work collectively but also each develop personal parts of the research. Since our department computer runs on Ubuntu,
and since my primary environment (and investment) is in PD, I opted for running our project in PD-extended. Our main library is the iem_ambi, but other iem stuff and additional extended libs prefigure considerably.
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>> So far this has been slightly frustrating, as we cannot find a combination of systems and PD distributions to allow all of us to work and exchange our patches freely. And it's getting harder to retort to the skeptic maxers...<br clear="none">
>> Apologies if this has been covered widely before, but issue has become more pertinent now that PD-extended has been discontinued.<br clear="none">
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>> Wondering what is your suggested approach for such collaborative projects?<br clear="none">
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>> Grateful for all of youse existence in this world,<br clear="none">
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