<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Can you do the following to get a console printout which hopefully shows the error involved?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* right click on the app and choose “Show Package Contents”</div><div class="">* navigate to Contents/Resources/bin</div><div class="">* double click “pd"</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Copy and paste any error prints / tcl stack trace in your next email.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 25, 2016, at 3:41 AM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <<a href="mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com" class="">jsubiavaldez@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello Dan, Me again, I tried that build that you sent me y<font class=""><font class="">esterday</font></font><font class=""><font class="">, but it does not start up. The icon on the dock says it is loaded as it does not blink or jump, but there is no PD window or menu.</font></font><div class=""><font class=""><font class=""><br class=""></font></font></div><div class=""><font class=""><font class="">again, just trying to help.</font></font></div><div class=""><font class=""><font class=""><br class=""></font></font></div><div class=""><font class=""><font class=""><font class=""><font class="">cheers</font></font></font></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Here’s the 32 bit build with TK 8.4 which should work fine on older systems: <a href="http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.47.0_osx_tk84_32bit.app.zip" target="_blank" class="">Pd-0.47.0_osx_tk84_32bit.app.zip</a><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The only difference between these builds is the TK version of the Wish.app used to create the app bundle and the inclusion of the Tcl/TK frameworks for versions not found on OSX. The underlying pd core & objects are the same.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The main thing to check is the the dialogs and window behavior all work as before since we’re now checking Tk versions to enable certain features/workarounds to support both older & newer Tks on Mac.</div><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 24, 2016, at 2:53 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <<a href="mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jsubiavaldez@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">that's great news Dan, thanks for all your work.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">That’s just for the build with the newer TK. Pd will work fine for you with the older TK 8.4.<div class=""><span class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""></span><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <<a href="mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jsubiavaldez@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">ufff.. that is so sad to hear, it was the best in my opinion.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Yeah, 10.6 is probably too old. I was thinking more 10.8+.<div class=""><span class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""></span><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 24, 2016, at 12:22 PM, José Rafael Subía Valdez <<a href="mailto:jsubiavaldez@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">jsubiavaldez@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello Dan,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">in OSX 10.6.8 it won't even start up, as it crashes immediately. Just trying to help, not complaining at all :P</div><div class="">here is my system log:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Path: /Users/JRSV/Desktop/Pd-0.47-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Identifier: org.puredata</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Version: ??? (???)</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Code Type: X86 (Native)</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Parent Process: launchd [312]</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Date/Time: 2016-05-24 19:19:59.336 +0100</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Report Version: 6</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Interval Since Last Report: 183831 sec</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Crashes Since Last Report: 15519</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 3</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Anonymous UUID: 489DE8AD-89BE-4348-99FE-C70BF546E543</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000008fe01030</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Crashed Thread: Unknown</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Backtrace not available</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Unknown thread crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""> eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x00000000 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00000000</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""> edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0x00000000 esp: 0x00000000</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""> ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010202 eip: 0x8fe01030 cs: 0x00000017</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""> ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000000</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""> cr2: 0x8fe01030</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Binary images description not available</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Model: MacBookPro6,2, BootROM MBP61.0057.B0C, 2 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.66 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.58f17</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M, PCIe, 512 MB</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Graphics: Intel HD Graphics, Intel HD Graphics, Built-In, 288 MB</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Memory Module: global_name</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x93), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.42.4)</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Bluetooth: Version 2.4.5f3, 2 service, 12 devices, 1 incoming serial ports</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Serial ATA Device: ST9500325ASG, 465.76 GB</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Hub, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfa100000 / 2</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x1003, 0xfa140000 / 6</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: USB Optical Mouse, 0x046d (Logitech Inc.), 0xc05a, 0xfa141000 / 9</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x020c, 0xfa143000 / 7</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8403, 0xfa130000 / 5</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0236, 0xfa120000 / 4</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 3</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8218, 0xfa113000 / 8</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Hub, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfd100000 / 2</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8507, 0xfd110000 / 4</font></div><div class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0xfd120000 / 3</font></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Howdy all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think I’ve pretty much ironed out the issues with the Tk Cocoa backend on OSX using Tk 8.5 & 8.6.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here are two test builds that include embedded Tcl/TK 8.6.5 frameworks:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* <a href="http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.47-0_osx_tk86_32bit.app.zip" target="_blank" class="">http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.47-0_osx_tk86_32bit.app.zip</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">* <a href="http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.47-0_osx_tk86_64bit.app.zip" target="_blank" class="">http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.47-0_osx_tk86_64bit.app.zip</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I testing on OSX 10.11, but they should work on earlier versions of OSX as well. The 32 bit build works fine with 32 bit externals on deken (ie Gem). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Also, the retina font rendering looks great!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The biggest overall changes are to the keybindings since there is no way to override the built in Cocoa Cmd+M & Cmd+H default bindings:<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>• Send Message: Mod+M/Mod+Shift+M -> Mod+Shift+K<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>• HSlider: Mod+Shift+H -> Mod+Shift+J<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>• Tidy Up: Mod+Shift+R<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>• Graph: Mod+Shift+G<br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>• Array: Mod+Shift+A</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">*This is a first stab at remapping those two combos. Let me know what you think.*</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You can see the commit details on the GitHub PR: <a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/6" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/6</a></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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