<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">aaand we seem to be good!</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cool.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">the font size in tk86 is smaller but looks clearer. </div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That’s related to the TK Cocoa backend rendering which brings the retina support.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">the tk84 version reminds me of the current PD look/feel.</div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It’s using the same Wish.app that coms with the pd source.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">so far no crashes but i didn't test a lot. looks like you're getting there!</div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have a performance coming up on Friday I’m preparing for, so I’ll be using one of the builds. Eat my own dog food.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 30, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Scott R. Looney <<a href="mailto:scottrlooney@gmail.com" class="">scottrlooney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">best,</div><div class="">scott</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hah yeah, you;re good. Just making sure.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Actually, it was my fault: there was a bad line of Tcl causing problems. I just generated another set of builds. <a href="http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/" target="_blank" class="">http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class=""><div class="">
<div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word;" class="">--------<br class="">Dan Wilcox<br class=""><a href="https://twitter.com/danomatika" target="_blank" class="">@danomatika</a><br class=""><a href="http://danomatika.com/" target="_blank" class="">danomatika.com</a><br class=""><div class=""><a href="http://robotcowboy.com/" target="_blank" class="">robotcowboy.com</a></div></div>
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<br class=""></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 30, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Scott R. Looney <<a href="mailto:scottrlooney@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scottrlooney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">well, i'm pretty sure it's a 64 bit machine. i'm running a Core i5 (3750K). it's a hackintosh on 10.8.5. i've used 64 bit builds of PD 0.46 with no issues. i just double checked and 0.46 starts fine. i'm reasonably techy, just shy of being a C++ coder (my exp is mainly in Unity C# scripting).<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">best,</div><div class="">scott</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Also, not to offend or question technical know-how-it-ness, but do you have a 64bit CPU? I only ask as, if you’re running an older OSX, you might be on an older laptop with a Core Duo which is 32 bit only.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just double checking :)<div class=""><span class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class="">--------<br class="">Dan Wilcox<br class=""><a href="https://twitter.com/danomatika" target="_blank" class="">@danomatika</a><br class=""><a href="http://danomatika.com/" target="_blank" class="">danomatika.com</a><br class=""><div class=""><a href="http://robotcowboy.com/" target="_blank" class="">robotcowboy.com</a></div></div>
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<br class=""></span><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 30, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Scott R. Looney <<a href="mailto:scottrlooney@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scottrlooney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">update - both 64 bit builds are still hanging. haven't tried command line yet, but tk84 bounces in the Dock and force quit shows Not Responding, and tk86/64 starts but has no windows. quitting via menu or key shortcut works however. also, build size on tk86/64 seems quite large in comparison (22-24MB as opposed to about 9 for the 32 bit version). i'll try to get more information.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">best,</div><div class="">scott</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">So the 64 bit build just hangs on start with nothing to indicate why? I hate when that happens :P Must be a Tk issue and might involve a build setting that’s missing.<div class=""><span class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class="">--------<br class="">Dan Wilcox<br class=""><a href="https://twitter.com/danomatika" target="_blank" class="">@danomatika</a><br class=""><a href="http://danomatika.com/" target="_blank" class="">danomatika.com</a><br class=""><div class=""><a href="http://robotcowboy.com/" target="_blank" class="">robotcowboy.com</a></div></div>
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<br class=""></span><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 30, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Scott R. Looney <<a href="mailto:scottrlooney@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scottrlooney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">wow - that kinda sucks. just FYI the 32 bit build of tk86 does work, so hopefully you can narrow it down to whatever you did for the 64 bit build.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">best,</div><div class="">scott</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 2:52 AM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><span class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">added quirk of not being able to quit via menu. quitting by shortcut works fine though.</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Cmd+Q menu binding now fixed in latest builds: <a href="http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds" target="_blank" class="">http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds</a></div><span class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">as for the 64 bit tk86 build, i tried to run it from the command line and was successful but it behaved the same way as before and nothing printed. perhaps a verbose flag is needed? haven't tried the 32 bit build</div></div></div></blockquote></span></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div><div class="">Yeah, that can be caused by a Tcl error that just hangs the gui on startup without any prints or errors. Whenever that happens, I have to backtrack what I last changed as there’s no way to debug. :P</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span class=""><div class="">
<div style="letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word" class="">--------<br class="">Dan Wilcox<br class=""><a href="https://twitter.com/danomatika" target="_blank" class="">@danomatika</a><br class=""><a href="http://danomatika.com/" target="_blank" class="">danomatika.com</a><br class=""><div class=""><a href="http://robotcowboy.com/" target="_blank" class="">robotcowboy.com</a></div></div>
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<br class=""></span><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><div class="">On May 29, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Scott R. Looney <<a href="mailto:scottrlooney@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scottrlooney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""></span><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class="">the tk84 version seems to work correctly, meaning the PD window comes up and i can add a patcher/canvas window.<div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">best,</div><div class="">scott</div></div></div><span class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Dan Wilcox <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">danomatika@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Does the tk84 version work?<span class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">hi Dan, this one isn't crashing on start but it's unresponsive and no window shows up. in addition i cannot manually quit. OS 10.8.5.</div></blockquote><br class=""></div></span><div class="">That means there is a Tcl/Tk error. Can you run the app from the commandline to see what it’s printing?</div><span class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""> i wasn't certain that 10.8.5 has tk 8.6 installed already.</div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Also, you don’t need to have Tk 8.6 installed, it’s included inside the Pd app bundle.</div><span class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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