<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>I don't have experience with Kyma but have always been curious. I assume there are some nice proprietary algos that are what you're paying for (like buying lexicon or eventide hardware) - along with a presumably nice ui. The dsp hardware specs of those types of effects are often unpublished - but they also have a fixed and limited feature set so the hardware only has to be good enough to pull that off.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd be curious to hear if there are some specific algorithms that Kyma users love / keep returning to etc. I teach at an institution that was recently considering purchasing one - my advice so far had been against it considering that they've already invested in max - but maybe it's more akin to buying a way more flexible eventide harmonizer etc?</div><div><br></div><div>It would also be cool to see pd patches that attempt to replicate beloved Kyma routines.</div><div><br></div><div>-Jesse</div><div><br>On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Marco Matteo Markidis <<a href="mailto:mm.markidis@gmail.com">mm.markidis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>honestly I never used Kyma. Anyway, I realized a port to Pd of a composition of Agostino Di Scipio born in Kyma. Apart all technical and aesthetic problems due to the different implementation, my opinion is that, in this specific case, Pd can perform all tasks with no CPU problem and with a reasonable sound quality. </div><div><br></div><div>So maybe Kyma was excellent at the 2000's beginning, when laptops were not so powerful.</div><div><br></div><div>These are my two cents :)</div><div><br></div><div>See you guys,</div><div><br></div><div>Marco</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-22 6:09 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px">Hi, any of you guys into Kyma? So many questions about this thing I've never seen...</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px">It's quite expensive and I wonder where the buck goes to... software design? User experience? Whatever it is, it doesn't seem its dedicated hardware justifies even half the cost... c'mon, 3k for what kinds of processors? They won't even tell what kind of processors they are... the lack of transparency is such that the only specs of the processor is measured in "capstones" whatever that is...</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px">Ok, it might be the best thing since cheese, but they don't put any real effort in selling with actual numbers/data... which raises so many questions...</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px"><br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px">since there's nothing else apparently today that has dedicated hardware for audio, I can only imagine that a dedicated hardware makes sense for a little less latency, which is also not a big deal these days...</p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px"><br></p><p style="margin:6px 0px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px">A dedicated low latency hardware like 'Bela' (less than 0.5ms) is much cheaper, does the price of kyma reflect a corresponding power in relation to its cost difference?</p><p style="margin:6px 0px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px"><br></p><p style="margin:6px 0px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px">So it seems the price is more about the<span style="display:inline"> convenience, the user experience and the software...</span></p><p style="margin:6px 0px;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px"><span style="display:inline"><br></span></p><div style="display:inline;color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.32px"><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px"><span style="line-height:19.32px">now, since I'm here, what can it do that pd can't? Or any other plugin / computer music tool out there, IRCAM stuff icluded... Csound, Supercollider et all?</span><br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px"><span style="line-height:19.32px"><br></span></p><p style="margin:6px 0px">thanks</p></div></div>
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