<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px">> what is not clear to me is if Purr Data will replace Pd-L2ork<div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4645" class="yahoo_quoted"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4644" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4643" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4646" class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2549462467"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4674"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4673" dir="ltr"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4675"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4715"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4677">I'm still missing some GUI externals, Ivica's K12 mode, and a few <br></div><div dir="ltr">Pd-l2ork-specific externals that require work to get running under <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5057" dir="ltr">Windows.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4678"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5058">Also, the HTML5 interface is a real cpu hog.  If it's a single core <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5059" dir="ltr">machine you'll see a big performance hit.  It's getting better with <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5060" dir="ltr">each release of nw.js, and I really haven't done a single thing to <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5061" dir="ltr">optimize anything yet.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5062" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Jonathan<br> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5063"><br clear="none"></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_4676">> so we could also say "Purr Data is the new Pd-L2ork"</div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475184525538_5064" class="yiv2549462467gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2549462467gmail_quote">2016-09-29 18:12 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:porres@gmail.com">porres@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv2549462467yqt8904133940" id="yiv2549462467yqt72467"><blockquote class="yiv2549462467gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Well, for one, I've been saying around: "Purr Data is the New Extended"...</div><div class="yiv2549462467HOEnZb"><div class="yiv2549462467h5"><div class="yiv2549462467gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2549462467gmail_quote">2016-09-29 16:34 GMT-03:00 Giulio Moro via Pd-list <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>></span>:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2549462467gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">interesting, can you please elaborate on  this:<br clear="none">
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> Its design principle is centered around nimble distributed development which may (and already does) include improvements in core behavior.<br clear="none">
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</span>thanks<br clear="none">
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> From: Ivica Bukvic <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>><br clear="none">
>To: Dan Wilcox <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
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>Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2016, 20:28<br clear="none">
<div><div>>Subject: Re: [PD] purr data beta1<br clear="none">
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>I think it can only be spiritual successor if you believe it to be one in part because its philosophy is different. What I said originally was that I had no explicit intentions on replacing extended in part because I was not sure what was its roadmap and whether it had a chance of being developed further. In other words, I never denied its capacity to replace extended but also did not want to assert that in any kind of authoritative way. Hope this helps!<br clear="none">
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>On Sep 29, 2016 14:52, "Dan Wilcox" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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>In this light, is Purr Data the spiritual successor for Pd-Extended? As I recall in previous discussions, y'all were explicit that Pd-L2Ork was not.<br clear="none">
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>>This question is not meant as a slight in any way. I’m just curious how this new project fits within your goals and the Pd community at large.<br clear="none">
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>>On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:29 PM, <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at">pd-list-request@lists.iem.at</a> wrote:<br clear="none">
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>>>From: Alexandre Torres Porres <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:porres@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:porres@gmail.com">porres@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
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>>>Subject: Re: [PD] purr data beta1<br clear="none">
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>>>Date: September 29, 2016 at 11:21:49 AM MDT<br clear="none">
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>>>To: "<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>><br clear="none">
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>>>In short: A Game Changer!<br clear="none">
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>>>2016-09-29 13:06 GMT-03:00 Ivica Ico Bukvic <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ico@vt.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:ico@vt.edu">ico@vt.edu</a>>:<br clear="none">
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>>>Purr-Data is a GUI rewrite for Pd-L2Ork which has over 1,500 patches/bugfixes/improvements over vanilla/extended. Its design principle is centered around nimble distributed development which may (and already does) include improvements in core behavior. Hope this helps!<br clear="none">
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>>>>Best,<br clear="none">
>>>>Ico<br clear="none">
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