<div dir="ltr"><div>There's a great story/paper waiting to be written.<br><br></div>Earth calling Hans:)<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 October 2016 at 09:47, Sebastian Lexer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.lexer@incalcando.com" target="_blank">s.lexer@incalcando.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</span>Sourceforge dates the first PD-extended1 to 05 March 2003:
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some mailing-list archive digging and so far this is the<br>earlier
mention I've found of it on the oft-neglected pd-announce list<br>so it
at least goes back to december 2002. <br><br><a class="m_2200184524502298634moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/2002-12/000178.html" target="_blank">https://lists.puredata.info/<wbr>pipermail/pd-announce/2002-12/<wbr>000178.html</a><br><br>In
terms of pd-list, the earliest mention I've found goes back to May<br>2003.<br><br><a class="m_2200184524502298634moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2003-05/011695.html" target="_blank">https://lists.puredata.info/<wbr>pipermail/pd-list/2003-05/<wbr>011695.html</a><br><br>Derek<br><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br><a class="m_2200184524502298634moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>
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On 10/10/2016 2:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px">> Does anyone have
a link to a paper or a publication that documents the <br>
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behind and original initiators of the pd-extended? I
traced <br>
> releases back to 2003 but there is no info on who
were original players <br>
> who started it. Thank you.<br>
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start it?<br>
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That's what I thought but I am not 100% sure, so I am hoping the
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anyone have a link to a paper or a publication that documents the <br><div class="m_2200184524502298634qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div></span><div style="display:block" id="m_2200184524502298634yui_3_16_0_1_1476120924952_10887" class="m_2200184524502298634yahoo_quoted"><div id="m_2200184524502298634yui_3_16_0_1_1476120924952_10886" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_2200184524502298634yui_3_16_0_1_1476120924952_10885" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_2200184524502298634yui_3_16_0_1_1476120924952_10891" class="m_2200184524502298634y_msg_container"><span class="">> motivation behind and original initiators
of the pd-extended? I traced <br>> releases back to 2003 but there is
no info on who were original players <br>> who started it. Thank
you.<br><div><br></div><div id="m_2200184524502298634yui_3_16_0_1_1476120924952_10894">Didn't
Hans start it?<br></div><div id="m_2200184524502298634yui_3_16_0_1_1476120924952_10895"><br></div></span><span class="">>
Best,<br><br>-- <br>Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.<br>Associate Professor<br>Creative
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paper or a publication that documents the
motivation behind and original initiators of the pd-extended? I traced
releases back to 2003 but there is no info on who were original players
who started it. Thank you.
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<br></span>Best,
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