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    <p>The character is not invisible. In an editor it manifests with an
      endline plus an indentation in the following line which actually
      visually helps parse things out inside a plaintext file like .pd.<br>
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    <p>I think the example you mentioned, while possible, is contrived
      because if a user is reading a config, they are likely already
      inside Pd with the intention of using such a config to configure
      their patch state. If this is the case, and the config is stored
      inside a patch in a form of a comment, then this is a non-issue
      because all \v chars are replaced with \n at runtime which IIRC
      regexp and similar methodologies can recognize as a separation
      between args.</p>
    <p>Now, the only reason I can imagine someone parsing a pd file
      without actually loading it would be your pd META example for
      tooltips which is a one-off example that can be easily addressed
      in a number of ways. Other examples seem to me like academic
      exercises--why would you store config inside a comments inside a
      pd patch, just to parse a comment which would require you to
      circumnavigate all the other syntax inside the file when you could
      do the same in a plaintext file or a coll object, or better yet,
      use preset_hub/node system?</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Ico<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/2016 2:38 PM, Jonathan Wilkes
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              <div class="yiv4378098391yqt0670964594"
                id="yiv4378098391yqtfd25529">> What about people
                parsing Pd files in Pd?  If they're searching for symbol
                "foo", are they going to have to deal with the edge case
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                                    id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480879099506_16520">Ivica,</div>
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                                    id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480879099506_16329">Just
                                    to give an example-- suppose someone
                                    is using a patch to store
                                    configuration data for their
                                    project.  They type the config data
                                    as comments in the <br clear="none">
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                                    id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480879099506_16518">patch,
                                    much like [pd META].  Then they
                                    parse their patch from within Pd,
                                    using [textfile], or [text] or
                                    whatever.<br clear="none">
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                                    id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480879099506_16331">Now,
                                    if they decide to insert some
                                    newlines into the comments to make
                                    their config prettier, as far as I
                                    understand this ends up appending an
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                                    id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480879099506_16332">'\v'
                                    character to the last atom of each
                                    line.  So the next time they read
                                    their config they will get corrupted
                                    data that's hard to debug because
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                                    doing the corruption is
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                                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480879099506_18804">That's
                                      the only direct downside I can
                                      see.  But as a design pattern it's
                                      problematic-- there are other
                                      places in Pd where a dev tried to
                                      use an <br>
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                                      id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1480879099506_18800">"obscure"
                                      character as a placeholder for
                                      something else.  That approach
                                      usually ends up creating more
                                      bugs.</div>
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