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    <p>Thanks all!</p>
    <p>It seems that changes in [declare]'s behavior were creating
      problems finding certain libraries of externals. the -noloadbang
      flag allowed me to change this behavior and now things load
      normally...</p>
    <p>best,</p>
    <p>J<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/20/2017 08:01 AM, Antoine
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            pd with -noaudio and -nomidi<br>
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        <div>also don't forget to try "-noloadbang", it could help too.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2017-01-20 9:40 GMT+01:00 IOhannes m
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              class="">On 01/20/2017 04:18 AM, Jaime Oliver La Rosa
              wrote:<br>
              > This happens to certain patches and then I cannot
              open them again, it is<br>
              > as if they were locked. It is currently happening to
              one I used yesterday!<br>
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            </span>i guess one of the objects in their fails to create
            within reasonable<br>
            limits.<br>
            so i would do:<br>
            - disable rt (this will make the "signaling pd..." message
            disappear,<br>
            but the loading might still hang. I guess it is still worth
            trying it out.<br>
            - enable "-verbose -stderr" to see what Pd is actually
            trying to do.<br>
            - get a list of all the objects used in the patch, and check
            whether<br>
            there's one in there that could block in the constructor.<br>
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            fgmrdsa<br>
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