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<p>Joining late to the party...</p>
<p>Being the culprit (I wrote the threaded addition to the coll
object) I am curious--Alexandre, do you mind elaborating how did
the threaded thing break max-msp compatibility? If you create a
coll object without the optional arg, you get Max behavior. If you
add the optional arg you get threaded which theoretically breaks
determinacy in favor of avoiding dropping samples due to file I/O
in the middle of a performance.</p>
<p>Tests in Max that stand out:</p>
<p>Reading and writing coll files while sound is running does not
cause xruns in Max, whereas in Pd it can depending on the size of
the coll file and CPU utilization.</p>
<p>You are right in that determinacy is preserved in Max no matter
what (e.g. read outlet bang outputs immediately after issuing the
read message in logical time).<br>
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<p>Doing Uzi with 100k generated entries into coll object in Max and
I get guaranteed crashes from these on both 6 and 7.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Ico<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/26/2017 6:51 AM, Alexandre Torres
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<div dir="ltr">oh, I had read that :) - so, same here, with my new
help file, no error!
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<div>something weird about that help file... don't ask me either</div>
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<div><i>>>But I never tried that, instead I
found and obsure solve, cant remember, it is
somewhere at the list archive.</i></div>
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<div><i>>yeah, we should find it :)</i></div>
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<div>It`s here:</div>
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<div>I though at that time that the
problem migth come cuz in the help
there are multiple [coll] &
they all share not having a name,
I thougt that giving some diff
names could solve the help patch
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<div>I have many unnamed coll object in my
newly written help file, and it doesn't
give that error, so maybe it's not
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<div>But I never tried that, instead
I found and obsure solve, cant
remember, it is somewhere at the
list archive.</div>
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<div>yeah, we should find it :)</div>
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