<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yiv8599040524"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_107905"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_107904" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_107903">Yes, I think the documentation is important (shame on me for never finishing all my docs). It's just a bit of a shame that we have to document some quite redundant functions, but if they make life easier for other patchers then that's great. I've made quite a few things in C that could be abstractions for example.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_107938"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_107936" dir="ltr"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_108197">Also, there's an annoyance that comes from having to investigate C code from abandoned libs, although this is usually not so hard with things like ramp~. I think it could be a good idea and a lot of work to present at least some examples in the help files of how such externals could be modelled within Pd vanilla. Naively I think this could help both newbies and people learning to code externals.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_108200"><br></div><div>x</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_108226">Ed<br></div></div><div id="yiv8599040524yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_104224"><span></span></div><div id="yiv8599040524yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_104241"> </div><div class="yiv8599040524signature" id="yiv8599040524yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_104239">_-_-_-_-_-_-_-^-_-_-_-_-_-_-_<br clear="none"><br clear="none">For <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_108202">Lone Shark </b>releases, <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_108204">Pure Data </b>software and published <b>Research</b>, go to <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://sharktracks.co.uk/">http://sharktracks.co.uk</a> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_108220" class="yiv8599040524qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv8599040524yqt7486693942" id="yiv8599040524yqt81255"></div></div></div></div><div class=".yiv8599040524yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday, 28 January 2017, 20:48, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv8599040524y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8599040524"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv8599040524gmail_extra"><div class="yiv8599040524gmail_quote"><blockquote class="yiv8599040524gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8599040524gmail-m_5845485392325549275yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_33531">it's one of those objects that is in Pd but could be easily dealt with in Pd without the external (...) but it's basically a line~ with an offset, and a fixed rate </div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div> looks like~ cyclone's count~ but much simpler</div><div><br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv8599040524gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8599040524gmail-m_5845485392325549275yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_33531">it just generates a signal ramp with the right characteristics to patch it into tabread4~ and playback samples at their original pitch.</div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div>or using it with tabread~ then instead pf tabread4~</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>looks again like count~ as one of its applications is in conjunction with index~ (basically tabread~).</div><div class="yiv8599040524yqt7114098371" id="yiv8599040524yqtfd33625"><div> </div><div><br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="yiv8599040524gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8599040524gmail-m_5845485392325549275yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_33531"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv8599040524gmail-m_5845485392325549275yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485604080764_34198">There are quite a lot of externals like this (and some from me) where people coded something in C for convenience, but can be easily done in Pd without externals.</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I know... Pd Extended is filled with things like that, and to make it more of a deal, documentation is sometimes bad, when simply non existing.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'm willing to help this in the forth coming Purr Data, by reorganising it and making it better documented</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>cheers</div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>