<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px">> As for comparisons, here’s the same patch using Deja Vu Sans Mono and Monaco, both with Tk 8.4 & with Tk 8.6 Retina HiDPI rendering: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv6252929300" target="_blank" href="https://flic.kr/p/QLGphN" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5539">https://flic.kr/p/QLGphN</a> (zoom in or download & view at full size)<div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5305" style="display: block;"><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5304"><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5303"><div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5308"><div id="yiv6252929300"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5389"><div class="yiv6252929300" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5418"><br class="yiv6252929300" clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6252929300" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5420">> Jonathan: One of the remaining problems I have with the Tk 8.6 build is the padding added to the object box width in HiDPI. Any clues on what to look into to fix this? The object arguments are clearly the same width… or appear to be.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_5505"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6815">Pd Vanilla has a different font-sizing/box-sizing algorithm than the one <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6466">I described. Instead of fitting font sizes to a spec, it amends the spec to <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_7005">accommodate the actual font sizes.<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6468"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6500">Look at the Tk 8.6 DejuVu Sans Mono bold retina text, for example. Even if <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6651">you had no padding, the text "tabread~ 29-envelope" is actually wider than <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6930">the box that contains that text in all the other examples.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6959"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_6980">Probably Vanilla works that way because of the limitation of integer-based <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_7068">font sizing in Tk. Even though the text in that example is wider than the others, <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_7026">it still appears to my eye to be roughly similar size. If instead you kept the box <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_7007">width constant and chose the next smallest integer to fit that text, the whole <br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_7103">patch would appear to contain smaller text than other examples.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_7105"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1486914616643_7117">-Jonathan<br></div></div></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>