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<div><i>>From what I gathered from the "Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS"</i></div>
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<div><i>thread, the following steps are required to achieve that goal:</i></div>
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<div><i>>Adjustments of the font metrics. It seems we can just take the ones</i></div>
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<div><i>from Pd-extended.</i></div>
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<div><i>>Use the same font on all platforms. Pd apparently looks for "DejaVu</i></div>
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<div><i>Sans Mono" first, so that is the one we should make available</i></div>
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<div><i>everywhere.</i></div>
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<div>Salutti,</div>
<div>Lucarda.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 22, 2017 8:05 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] Cross-platform uniform GUI rendering of patches.</font>
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<div class="PlainText">On Die, 2017-02-21 at 19:33 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:<br>
> Ok, seems we have yet another thread to keep discussing a same topic<br>
> that I kinda started. Anyway, if the focus of the debate has changed<br>
> indeed, I suggest changing the thread name and adding (was: "xxxx" <=<br>
> old thread subject), in this case: (was: (wip) Preferences file).<br>
> <br>
> So, I did bring this up, how patches look differently in vanilla<br>
> according to the operating system, and how they look different from<br>
> extended / purr data (which, on their own, look consistent in all<br>
> platforms and also look like each other!).<br>
> <br>
> Changing the font metrics from Vanilla to extended's/purr data's<br>
> doesn't compromise the patch as the other way around does. Cause<br>
> opening extended patches in the vanilla's metrics does compromise the<br>
> visual experience a lot, creating all sorts of overlaps... I already<br>
> pointed this out in the previous threads. <br>
> <br>
> So, keeping it objective and not to repeat myself too much, I<br>
> consider this an issue, an undesired behaviour, a bug, whatever, and<br>
> I hope we could fix it. Any opposition? What is the best way to do<br>
> this?<br>
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This is my view on the matter:<br>
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The primary goal is to make Pd(-vanilla)'s appearance consistent across<br>
platforms. Part of that is that box sizes don't change when switching<br>
platforms. As a side effect of this fix, patches also don't change<br>
appearance when switching between Pd flavors (Do we still need to care<br>
about Pd-extended, since it's been phased out?).<br>
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>From what I gathered from the "Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS"<br>
thread, the following steps are required to achieve that goal:<br>
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* Adjustments of the font metrics. It seems we can just take the ones<br>
from Pd-extended.<br>
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* Use the same font on all platforms. Pd apparently looks for "DejaVu<br>
Sans Mono" first, so that is the one we should make available<br>
everywhere.<br>
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On Linux, it's the task of Pd's package maintainers that DejaVu is<br>
installed when Pd is to be installed. If I'm not mistaken, DejaVu is<br>
installed per default on all Debian derivatives, so we do not have to<br>
care about them. On Windows, the font is missing and the Pd installer<br>
could be adapted to install the font along with Pd. On macOS, I don't<br>
know what the required steps would be.<br>
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I propose that before we submit any fixes to Miller we are absolutely<br>
certain that the adapted font metrics are correct in that the resulting<br>
box sizes are consistent for all available font sizes (8, 10, 12, 16,<br>
24, 36). And when testing this, we make sure that Pd uses "DejaVu Sans<br>
Mono". Only then we submit any fix.<br>
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If we find good font metrics, I'll submit a fix to the NSIS installer<br>
script, so that installing DejaVu is part of the Pd installation<br>
process on Windows. Yet, I'm not sure whether it is enough to simply<br>
drop the font files into %windir%\Fonts or whether the font needs to be<br>
registered somewhere. <br>
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Roman<br>
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