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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">i just experienced this on a 386 build i did for raspi/pd/sc devel</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">once i set it it's on even though i set the verbose on the cli</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at> on behalf of Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:00:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Antoine Rousseau<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] How to get off verbose mode?</font>
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<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word">IMO the startup flags like this should *not* be saved or be added to the existing settings when saving. They should only act as overrides to the settings. This is true for a number of flags such as -path for which
I have a fix on Github: <a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/153" class="">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/153</a>
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<div class="">On Dec 27, 2017, at 12:00 PM, <a href="mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at" class="">
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Antoine Rousseau <</span><a href="mailto:antoine@metalu.net" class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:auto; word-spacing:0px">antoine@metalu.net</a><span class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; float:none; display:inline!important">></span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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<</span><a href="mailto:adrcki@gmail.com" class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:auto; word-spacing:0px">adrcki@gmail.com</a><span class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; float:none; display:inline!important">></span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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Wilcox <</span><a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com" class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:auto; word-spacing:0px">danomatika@gmail.com</a><span class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; float:none; display:inline!important">>,
Pd-List <</span><a href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; widows:auto; word-spacing:0px">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a><span class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; float:none; display:inline!important">></span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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Re: [PD] How to get off verbose mode?</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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Setting the -verbose flag adds it to the startup flags and if you *save*<br class="">
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on Linux at least, you don't even need to *save* the settings:</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
<span class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; float:none; display:inline!important">clicking
"Apply" or "OK" buttons of Path and Startup dialogs "auto"-saves</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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the settings.</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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<span class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; float:none; display:inline!important">to pd-devs:</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
<span class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; float:none; display:inline!important">if this
is intended, maybe:</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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and Midi could do as well, instead of their current "Save all</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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buttons</span><br class="" style="font-family:Monaco; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px">
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all Preferences" menu entry could be removed.</span></div>
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