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<p>I'm afraid I can't explain the win reg things. I remember someone having troubles a couple of month ago, I think it was with [declare] and Gem.</p>
<p>He finally uninstall, deleted the reg keys, re-install and everything worked normally.</p>
<p>I'm not saying that you should do that. But at least inspect your registry, may be we have a clue whats going on.</p>
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<div> this wouldn't explain why standard paths are skipped. also, I tried with '-noprefs' - shouldn't this ignore all settings in the registry?</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 um 17:40 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Lucas Cordiviola" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com">
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<p>look in this key</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0.0in;">HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Pure-Data</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0.0in;">you might have 2 "Pure-Data" @ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0.0in;">This one is for the GUI:</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0.0in;">HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Pure-Data\org.puredata </p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/10/2018 1:25 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:</div>
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<div>interesting. I'll have a look.
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<div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 um 17:18 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Lucas Cordiviola" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='lucarda27@hotmail.com';
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<p>I believe is something with the registry. Someone pointed here in the list that uninstalling Pd does not wipe the registry. So you might have foo/bar/ from the previous and foo/bar from the newone giving you those c:/foo/bar/c:/foo/bar paths.<br>
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I can't remember where are the Pd keys on the windows registry but you can inspect them.</p>
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<div>can anyone think of a reason why the loader would just skip the User and Common standard path? or why it sometimes would create crazy search paths like:</div>
<div>C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/zexy.dll</div>
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<div>I also thought it could be a registry issue but I got the same result when running with -noprefs</div>
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<b>Von:</b> "Lucas Cordiviola" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='lucarda27@hotmail.com';
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<p>I tried to replicate this on a win10 machine using pd from the installer (only pd in this clean machine).</p>
<p>I did [declare -stdpath iemlib] and then successfully created the [unsig~].</p>
<p>The console:</p>
<p>tried C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/Pd/iemlib/unsig~.m_i386 and failed<br>
tried C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/Pd/iemlib/unsig~.dll and failed<br>
tried C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/Pd/iemlib/unsig~/unsig~.m_i386 and failed<br>
tried C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/Pd/iemlib/unsig~/unsig~.dll and failed<br>
tried C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/Pd/iemlib/unsig~.pd and succeeded<br>
tried C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/Pd/iemlib/unsig~.pd and succeeded</p>
<p>one thing that comes to my mind right now is that this path was not added to the search path. It was downloaded to to /documents/pd. then the path was added by deken. then i move the folder and deleted the path entry /documents/*/*/iemlib.</p>
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<p>PS: i added the appdata/*/*iemlib to the search path and tried again ,also using declare and restarting pd. It worked Ok. Same console.</p>
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<pre>thanks a lot! works great so far, expect for a really weird bug with [declare]:
I have iemlib in my user stdpath (C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd). Now if I do [declare -stdpath iemlib] and try to create the iemlib abstraction [unsig~], it won't create. Here's the verbose output:
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/unsig~/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/unsig~/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/unsig~.pat and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/unsig~/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:UsersChristof/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:UsersChristof/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:UsersChristof/unsig~/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:UsersChristof/unsig~/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:UsersChristof/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:UsersChristof/unsig~.pat and failed
tried C:UsersChristof/unsig~/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/unsig~/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/unsig~/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/unsig~.pat and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/unsig~/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Pd/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Pd/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Pd/unsig~/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Pd/unsig~/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Pd/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Pd/unsig~.pat and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Pd/unsig~/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/unsig~/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/unsig~/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/unsig~.pat and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/unsig~/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/doc/5.reference/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/doc/5.reference/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/doc/5.reference/unsig~/unsig~.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/doc/5.reference/unsig~/unsig~.dll and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/doc/5.reference/unsig~.pd and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/doc/5.reference/unsig~.pat and failed
tried C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/doc/5.reference/unsig~/unsig~.pd and failed
unsig~
... couldn't create
Note how it searches in C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/iemlib/, skipping the other two standard paths.
then it continues to search for unsig~ directly - in all three standard paths!
Now here comes the crazy thing: this doesn't happen for all other libraries! it only fails for iemlib... for instance, here's the output for [declare -stdpath zexy] and [cart2pol]:
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/zexy/cart2pol.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/zexy/cart2pol.dll and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/zexy/cart2pol/cart2pol.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/zexy/cart2pol/cart2pol.dll and failed
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/zexy/cart2pol.pd and succeeded
tried C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/zexy/cart2pol.pd and succeeded
Note how it starts the search in C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/zexy.
How is this possible?
For some reason it only happens when I install Pd with the installer. The .zip version works perfectly OK.
I also noticed some strange behaviour (in both Pd versions) for [declare -stdlib]. Some search paths don't make much sense, like:
'C:/Users/Christof/AppData/Roaming/Pd/C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/extra/zexy.dll'. see the attachment for a full log.
Christof
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To Pd-announce:
Pd version 0.48-1 is available on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm</a>
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