<div dir="ltr"><div>Oh okay, I get it.<br></div>I'm not sure. Are you sending SYSEX from your Circuit as well?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:31 PM, mario buoninfante <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com" target="_blank">mario.buoninfante@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">yap, this makes sense. I imagined Gmidimonitor does that. but why is not parsing midi from Pd?<br>
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sorry, maybe I'm just missing the point, but I'm really trying to get my head around with that ;)<br>
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On 02/22/2018 10:29 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:<br>
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don't confuse MIDI messages with the individual bytes which make up the message. Gmidimonitor parses the byte stream so it can tell you which messages it gets. [midiout] is only responsible for sending raw *bytes* to a MIDI device. it's your job to assemble your MIDI *messages*.<br>
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2018 um 23:05 Uhr<br>
Von: "mario buoninfante" <<a href="mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com" target="_blank">mario.buoninfante@gmail.com</a>><br>
An: Alex <<a href="mailto:x37v.alex@gmail.com" target="_blank">x37v.alex@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Betreff: Re: [PD] sysex messages<br>
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yap, I know that at the end of the day MIDI is dealing with 1 byte at time. I was wondering why there's a difference between 2 different piece of code that generates MIDI (Pd and Hardware synth).<br>
for example I just monitored (via USB) my Novation Circuit (a groovebox) and Gmidimonitor receives messages 81 bytes long. with Pd as I said is always 1 byte.<br>
now my question would be, how is this possible?<br>
I'm sure Circuit sends sysex 81 bytes long, so I know that this is correct, but still I don't know why Pd doesn't allow something like that.<br>
cheers,<br>
Mario<br>
On 02/22/2018 09:58 PM, Alex wrote:<br>
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MIDI is a serial protocol, individual bits running down a single line, we now also have USB midi which is a little bit different than that but usually that is abstracted for you.The software monitor you're using likely groups these for you but in reality you simply have a stream of individual bits on the hardware line..<br>
PD's object let you do bytes at a time instead of individual bits :)<br>
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:47 PM, mario buoninfante <<a href="mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com" target="_blank">mario.buoninfante@gmail.com</a>[m<wbr>ailto:<a href="mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com" target="_blank">mario.buoninfante@gmail.<wbr>com</a>]> wrote:<br>
Hi Alex,<br>
thanks for your reply. I think that also using your abstraction Pd will spit out 1 byte per time (I didn't check it, but I assume that cause it's not an external in C).<br>
about MIDI if I'm not wrong, bytes are grouped in accord with the type of message, ie Note on/off and CC are 3 bytes messages, channel pressure and program change are 2 bytes, sysex have variable length and so on. and I presume they're sent out in group.<br>
in fact when I monitor MIDI messages coming for certain applications (I'm on Linux and I'm using Gmidimonitor) the console tells me the sysex size in bytes. so, with Pd the size is always 1 byte, but with other programming languages and softwares is variable and goes in accord with the sysex I generated.<br>
cheers,<br>
Mario<br>
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On 02/22/2018 09:34 PM, Alex wrote:<br>
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I haven't tested in a while but I wrote an abstraction to take a list, wrap it in the sysex start and end and output it as individual bytes: <a href="https://github.com/x37v/pure_data%5Bhttps://github.com/x37v/pure_data%5D" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/x37v/pure_d<wbr>ata[https://github.com/x37v/pu<wbr>re_data]</a><br>
midi is a byte oriented protocol..<br>
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:24 PM, mario buoninfante <<a href="mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com" target="_blank">mario.buoninfante@gmail.com</a>[m<wbr>ailto:<a href="mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com" target="_blank">mario.buoninfante@gmail.<wbr>com</a>]> wrote:Hi,<br>
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do you guys know if there's a way to send a list of sysex messages (or 1 complete message, let's say 8 bytes long) rather then 1 byte per time?<br>
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if not, do you know if there's a particular reason why it's not possible?<br>
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cheers,<br>
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Mario<br>
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