<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Everyone, this should not be a surprise<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">I'm unaware inlet/outlets grew... I'll have a look and see what's up. I</span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">don't think there's any reason for them to have chanced.</span><br class=""></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I spent *2 weeks* working on the GUI and there was extensive tweaking back and forth asking for feedback for a fews weeks afterwards both on this list and on Github:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2017-09/021272.html" class="">https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2017-09/021272.html</a></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/227" class="">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/227</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It's not like I / we suddenly pulled a "fast one."</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Things move in steps. First was to fix a lot of the sizing issues as related to fonts, different platforms, and zooming. Part of porting in the extended sizing was that many people seemed to want it and, in the future, it would be much easier to allow for showing different inlet/outlet types. At least it would be an *option*.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A possible next step is to expose sizing and color options like this, but I only focused on fixes and laying the groundwork. As we can see, it doesn't;t seem to be possible to make *everyone* happy.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">yeah, definitely looks very "extended-ish"</span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">even if "uniform rendering across systems" is definitely a worthy goal,</span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">are the bigger inlets really unavoidable ?</span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Some people might as "are the inlets being a different size than the outlets really unavoidable?" :)</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">no chance to at least hack a personal version of a tcl file to make them </span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">thin again ?</span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Not yet. But it now *could* be a setting as the sizing was hardcoded before and now it relies on a single define. This define could now be more easily replaced by a variable.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">(in fact the fat ones where a reason i intuitively rejected pdx/purrdata </span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">and stayed with vanilla. i just didn't like the bloated look. but here </span><br class="" style="font-family: Monaco;"><span class="" style="font-family: Monaco; float: none; display: inline !important;">we are ...)</span></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>Really? Would you really *not* use Pd over this? For now, you can build Pd yourself and change the io height: <a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/src/g_canvas.h#L47" class="">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/src/g_canvas.h#L47</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"bloated?" Come on, it's like 1 pixel makes it look like MAX...</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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