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I support IOhannes' idea of distinguishing between opening from the menu and opening from the OS file system, and of asking the user if they want a new instance.</div>
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Another case for multiple patches is this: the user is editing a patch, but worries that he has misplaced a connection or damaged it somehow. So before saving it, he opens the earlier version from the menu, just to check that everything is in place. Then he
closes the old version and saves the new one. I find myself doing this a lot, and it doesn't seem particularly "expert" to me.<br>
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<div><span style="font-family: calibri, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">Having said this, I think the new feature is worth keeping,</span><span style="font-family: calibri, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">
so long as there is some provision for multiple instances of the same patch.</span><br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 September 2018 17:27<br>
<b>To:</b> IOhannes m zm??lnig<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pd-list@lists.iem.at<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why?</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Ah, yes, a fourth option: have a new "pd really-open" message to open<br>
a file without checking if it's a duplicate.<br>
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cheers<br>
M<br>
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On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 06:18:42PM +0200, IOhannes m zm??lnig wrote:<br>
> On 9/22/18 3:17 PM, katja wrote:<br>
> > Much to my alarm, Pd 0.49test3 prevents loading multiple instances of<br>
> > a patch, and release notes tell us that this is on purpose. <br>
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> <br>
> funnily, i recently worked on a related regression where double-clicking<br>
> on a Pd-patch (in your favourite Windows exploder) would start a new<br>
> instance of Pd (rather than switching to the current instance and<br>
> raising the patch if already opened).<br>
> <br>
> note however, that this regression (fix) is unrelated to what you are<br>
> describing.<br>
> <br>
> and i agree that it should be possible to open the same patch multiple<br>
> times. esp. on a programmatic layer (that is: by sending messages to Pd).<br>
> i guess, when opening an already opened patch from the menu (Ctrl-O), Pd<br>
> could *ask* whether this is really intended.<br>
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> gkmdsar<br>
> IOhannes<br>
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