<div dir="ltr">Hey Dario, I have been thinking about this, I saw a tcl/tk plug in to receive the console messages in a patch, continuing down this road I guess you could also save in a text file, all missing dependencies. I don't think it should be much of a problem to write an external that does that.<div><br></div><div>cheers</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 6:51 PM Dario Sanfilippo <<a href="mailto:sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com">sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thanks, Henri. I'm very grateful for your time.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Yes, it is helpful :)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">D</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 22:57, Henri Augusto Bisognini <<a href="mailto:msndohenri@hotmail.com" target="_blank">msndohenri@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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It really depends on how you managed your dependencies. That seems like an easy matter but it is more complicated than it look (and than it should)<br>
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I will write down how i do it:</div>
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<i>(you probably know that but just for the record: the .pd are text files that can be opened in any text editor)</i><br>
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Most powerful programming text editors (atom/sublime text/etc) can perform searches in all files inside a folder. That includes performing regex searches.</div>
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I've separated the dependencies loading methods but you can of course mix all of them. Let's see some possible cases:</div>
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<b>1 - You document your dependencies in a readme file, in your library main help patch or in any other sensible way:
</b>take a moment to salute yourself for having good programming habits and appreciate the fact that you can just read your documentation to see what you need.
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If you do that you might skip the rest but it might still be useful when dealing with other people's code...</div>
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Okay, if you don't do number <b>1... </b>first of all: start doing it :) <br>
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<b>2</b> -<b>externals are loaded using [declare] :</b> search the .pd files for "declare " so you can easily see what externals you're using</div>
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<b>3</b> -<b> externals are loaded using the [library name/external] syntax: </b>
search, <b>using regexp,</b> the .pd files for .*\/.*</div>
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that finds stuff in the form "some words/some words"</div>
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btw i personally recommend using the PD's auto completion plugin for writing code using in that syntax. It avoids name clashes and makes it absolutely clear which library you're using and where.</div>
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search for completion-plugin on deken. I'm already working on the next version with new features and bugfixes.<br>
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<b>4</b> -<b> externals are loaded on startup (that includes using pd extended): </b>
well, in that case it will be really hard to know what you're using withouth using the trick i will describe below.</div>
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<b>Trick:</b></div>
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<b></b>let PD tell you whats missing by running vanilla completely stripped down.</div>
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How to do that may vary according to your setup but it usually consists of:<br>
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Now when you open a patch PD won't be able to load any externals. So, reduced only to vanilla objects, you will get an error message everytime something couldn't be loaded.</div>
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Then add whats missing, <b>write it down the dependencies, </b>and set PD to find them again (adding a search path, etc).</div>
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<b>Then repeat until you don't get any errors.</b></div>
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If in doubt, paranoid or if you're sending important files, be sure to test them in another computer. If you're sending a patch to a performance of one of your pieces in a festival for example. Always test in another computer just to be sure. And test it on
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This is very personal but i like to put all my libraries in a "my externals" folder and add only that one folder to the search paths.</div>
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So i add "<b>C:\Users\YourName\Desktop\Pure Data\libs\</b>" and then i can use [easyflow/counter] and [cyclone/counter] and i know exactly what i'm getting. Plus having only 1 search path makes it really easier/quicker to use the trick above.</div>
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Now that you can find your dependencies then, as of current state of development, you must include them manually in your zip file.</div>
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<div id="m_-4410157335233290651m_-5419116590549560016divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>De:</b> Pd-list <<a href="mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at</a>> em nome de Dario Sanfilippo <<a href="mailto:sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com" target="_blank">sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Enviado:</b> sexta-feira, 16 de novembro de 2018 16:57<br>
<b>Para:</b> pd-list<br>
<b>Assunto:</b> [PD] Exporting a patch as a zip file</font>
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<div class="m_-4410157335233290651m_-5419116590549560016x_" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It would be amazing to be able to do that because manually locating all the necessary abstractions and externals from a supposedly large folder is a bit tricky and many are often left
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<div class="m_-4410157335233290651m_-5419116590549560016x_" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thanks,</div>
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