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<p>I don't know how preferences are handled on macOS and Pd.</p>
<p>Looks to me that when you "disable all externals" this doesn't get saved on the prefs. so you go back to point1)</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/24/2018 2:17 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:<br>
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<div>1) crashes at startup</div>
<div>2) on second start it prints in the console:</div>
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<div>Pd seems to have crashed on startup.</div>
<div>(re-save preferences to reinstate them)</div>
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<div>and no loading externals. Saving all preferences and restarting Pd causes an immediate crash, go back to point 1)</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 6:01 PM Lucas Cordiviola <<a href="mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lucarda27@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="m_6202222708026434493m_7847452017443691584moz-cite-prefix">On 11/24/2018 1:51 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:<br>
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<div>that is the same mirror. Tried both.</div>
<div>When I load a patch created before, all the externals load immediately. But if I open Pd 0.49-1 and just want to patch, no externals are available.</div>
<div>Very strange behaviour.</div>
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Lets separate the issue(s):<br>
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Does it crash?<br>
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It just not load externals?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:47 PM Lucas Cordiviola <<a href="mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lucarda27@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Try this one at:</p>
<p><a href="http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html</a></p>
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On 11/24/2018 1:40 PM, Csaba Láng wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Downloaded from here:
<div><a href="https://puredata.info/downloads/pure-data" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://puredata.info/downloads/pure-data</a><br>
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<div>the first mac os x link to 64bit</div>
<div>the same on Miller's page.</div>
<div>Still crashes at load.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:35 PM Lucas Cordiviola <<a href="mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lucarda27@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Very strange that Pd is called Wish on the top Menu bar, and it has a feather as the icon of Pd.
<div>Maybe it has something common with the problem?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear list,
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<div>I planned to move to 0.49-1 as read all about the amazing new features, but unfortunately pd crashes at startup.</div>
<div>After next startup it prints:</div>
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<div>Pd seems to have crashed on startup.</div>
<div>(re-save preferences to reinstate them)</div>
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<div>Re-saving them causes a crash next time either.</div>
<div>This means no externals are loaded.</div>
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<div>Did anyone had a similar issue?</div>
<div>Is there any solution?</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Popesz</div>
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