<div><div dir="auto">Hi Enrike,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Im not sure of your setup but should you have access to a gps signal you could use it to sync all devices... I think.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Good luck!</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 09:09 <<a href="mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at">pd-list-request@lists.iem.at</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. chronometer + metronome that syncs multiple Android/iOS<br>
devices over network? (enrike)<br>
2. Gem 0.94 - camera settings on windows ... (oliver)<br>
3. Re: chronometer + metronome that syncs multiple Android/iOS<br>
devices over network? (Antoine Rousseau)<br>
4. [PD-announce] Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 17:18:41 +0100<br>
From: enrike <<a href="mailto:altern2@gmail.com" target="_blank">altern2@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Pd-List <<a href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>><br>
Subject: [PD] chronometer + metronome that syncs multiple Android/iOS<br>
devices over network?<br>
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hi all<br>
<br>
We need a chronometer that runs in sync in multiple devices at the same <br>
time. Target platform is android, and if possible iOS as well. We are <br>
thinking also that it would be great to have some sort of metronome <br>
running together with the chronometer (we have trained musicians <br>
together with non trained musicians in the ensemble).<br>
<br>
So far we have been using <a href="http://chronograph.io/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://chronograph.io/</a> so far but it is not <br>
100% reliable, we had a few issues last performance (one device was ~1 <br>
sec behind the others, and often during rehearsals we had problems with <br>
the start signal not being sent at all).<br>
<br>
I am considering the possibility of implementing this functionality in <br>
PD using PDdroidparty and OSC. Because we dont like the tools we have <br>
found online. We found some nice metronomes but the only one that seems <br>
to sync is only iOS. And we do need the chronometer (in fact priority n1 <br>
is the chronometer right now). I thought maybe someone can point into <br>
some existing alternative before I try to reinvent the wheel.<br>
<br>
One of the biggest issues I foresee is to find an easy and quick way for <br>
the master device to find out the available slaves in the network. I <br>
would not like to have to, one by one, find and then type the IPs of <br>
each single device in the master device, although the master could be a <br>
laptop running PD and that would make it easier to type them...<br>
<br>
thanks in advance for any feedback<br>
<br>
enrike<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 18:33:48 +0100<br>
From: oliver <<a href="mailto:oliver@klingt.org" target="_blank">oliver@klingt.org</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:pd-list@mail.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@mail.iem.at</a>" <<a href="mailto:pd-list@mail.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@mail.iem.at</a>><br>
Subject: [PD] Gem 0.94 - camera settings on windows ...<br>
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hi,<br>
<br>
i am trying to make a patch involving a live camera on PD 0.49.0 (64bit) <br>
with Gem 0.94_pre1 (64bit) on a windows 7/64bit machine.<br>
<br>
so far everything works alright, but i can't set the camera resolution !<br>
<br>
unfortunately the default resolution is 160x120, which is pretty <br>
useless. so far i found no way to change that resolution, the "dimen" <br>
message does nothing and setting width/height via the props method also <br>
doesn't work.<br>
<br>
<br>
now here's another strange thing: with PD 0.48 and Gem 0.93 (both <br>
32bit), when i opened the camera dialog (with the "dialog" message to <br>
[pix_video]), 2 windows opened: 1 for the camera driver settings <br>
(brightness, contrast, exposure etc.) and 1 for the resolution.<br>
<br>
so with the fomer (32bit) version of Gem i COULD set the camera <br>
resolution to the desired dimension.<br>
<br>
however, sending "dialog" to [pix_video] in the 64bit version described <br>
above, i only get 1 window, the one with the driver properties (which <br>
btw i can also set via the "props" method)<br>
<br>
can anybody help me in this regard ? is there a workaround to manually <br>
set the camera's resolution ?<br>
<br>
unfortunately i need the 64bit version of Gem because of the amount of <br>
RAM i need (i record video frames over some peroid of time, and the <br>
32bit version is limited for my needs). plus the 32bit version doesn't <br>
work (i already reported that to the list)<br>
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thanks for any hints<br>
<br>
best<br>
<br>
oliver<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 19:10:43 +0100<br>
From: Antoine Rousseau <<a href="mailto:antoine@metalu.net" target="_blank">antoine@metalu.net</a>><br>
To: Pd-List <<a href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [PD] chronometer + metronome that syncs multiple<br>
Android/iOS devices over network?<br>
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Hi Enrike,<br>
<br>
you'll probably find that syncing many devices together (especially via a<br>
wifi network) is a rather difficult task.<br>
Many parameters can make it complicated, above all network latency and<br>
device latency. Network latency is often quite variable and unpredictable,<br>
and the same goes for audio latency on Android.<br>
<br>
That said, it seems that the best solution currently is Ableton Link (<br>
<a href="https://www.ableton.com/en/link/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ableton.com/en/link/</a>), which is a GPL cross-platform library<br>
and protocol.<br>
It is implemented to Pd through the [abl_link~] object (available from<br>
Deken for most platforms).<br>
<br>
In some case where [abl_link~] wouldn't work (I had crashes on a<br>
raspberryPi), you can use Carabiner which provides a network socket to Link:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/Deep-Symmetry/carabiner" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/Deep-Symmetry/carabiner</a><br>
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good luck!<br>
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Le mar. 5 mars 2019 à 17:18, enrike <<a href="mailto:altern2@gmail.com" target="_blank">altern2@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
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> hi all<br>
><br>
> We need a chronometer that runs in sync in multiple devices at the same<br>
> time. Target platform is android, and if possible iOS as well. We are<br>
> thinking also that it would be great to have some sort of metronome<br>
> running together with the chronometer (we have trained musicians<br>
> together with non trained musicians in the ensemble).<br>
><br>
> So far we have been using <a href="http://chronograph.io/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://chronograph.io/</a> so far but it is not<br>
> 100% reliable, we had a few issues last performance (one device was ~1<br>
> sec behind the others, and often during rehearsals we had problems with<br>
> the start signal not being sent at all).<br>
><br>
> I am considering the possibility of implementing this functionality in<br>
> PD using PDdroidparty and OSC. Because we dont like the tools we have<br>
> found online. We found some nice metronomes but the only one that seems<br>
> to sync is only iOS. And we do need the chronometer (in fact priority n1<br>
> is the chronometer right now). I thought maybe someone can point into<br>
> some existing alternative before I try to reinvent the wheel.<br>
><br>
> One of the biggest issues I foresee is to find an easy and quick way for<br>
> the master device to find out the available slaves in the network. I<br>
> would not like to have to, one by one, find and then type the IPs of<br>
> each single device in the master device, although the master could be a<br>
> laptop running PD and that would make it easier to type them...<br>
><br>
> thanks in advance for any feedback<br>
><br>
> enrike<br>
><br>
><br>
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