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<p>Please see my last mail. This is a regression in Pd 0.50. There's
even a discussion on GitHub, but I can't find it anymore :-(. I
still have the fix, though. I think I wanted to add more data
structure fixes, but then forgot about the whole thing...</p>
<p>Christof<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21.03.2020 14:58, Dan Wilcox wrote:<br>
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<div class="">I'll start by assuming "impossible to work with"
means the functionality works but you can't see the array point
behind the vertical double arrow cursor while moving it.</div>
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The cursors are set in pd-gui.tcl in the init_for_platform proc.
You can changing ::cursor_runmode_thicken to an arrow.
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<div class="">The cursor code in the TCL hasn't changed since at
least 9-10 years, so maybe you are seeing a difference between
Tk versions.<br class="">
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<div class="">On Mar 21, 2020, at 2:19 PM, <a
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14:19:40 +0100</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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array pd50 vs pd48</span><br style="caret-color:
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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difference in cursor behavior in Pd 50 vs Pd 48<span
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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when using the cursor in a graph.</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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a line in the graph - in both Pd's the same</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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to a line (and possibly changing it)</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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work with when one wants to change something<span
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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inline !important;" class="">or even using it for
reading a position in the graph.</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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array-in-datastructures-help can be used to illustrate
this.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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