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    <p>there is an extremely ridiculous hack that could be tried, *if*
      the guis are for display only: similar to jmmmp/pix2canvas, a
      group of 1x1 canvases can be used to fake an alpha channel.</p>
    <p>But besides the condition above, the purpose of this will be
      mainly to show how ridiculously far Pd users will go to handle the
      current limitations they're bound to.</p>
    <p>(actually, guis can be placed under the canvases to create an
      interaction - which will make the whole concept even more
      ridiculous)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Joao<br>
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      That's funny, I've just recently discovered your PoF project,
      which you've mentioned below: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
        href="https://github.com/Ant1r/ofxPof" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/Ant1r/ofxPof</a>
      <p>I haven't really tried it, just skimmed through the code, but
        the multi-threaded rendering looks very promising and should
        make it much more suitable for building GUIs while simultanously
        running audio!<br>
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      <p>Christof<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16.04.2020 18:23, Antoine Rousseau
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        <div dir="ltr">You can't display any object from another toolkit
          into a Pd window (aka Tk canvas).
          <div>You'd have to open another window for that. </div>
          <div>e.g: Gem/Ofelia/Pof (through openGL) offer alpha...</div>
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                          sans-serif">  <a href="http://metalu.net"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.metalu.net</a> __ <a
href="http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.metaluachahuter.com/</a><br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 16 avr. 2020
            à 18:02, Alexandre Torres Porres <<a
              href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">porres@gmail.com</a>>
            a écrit :<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">So, Tcl/Tk can't offer us an anpha channel
              for things like iemguis.
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              <div>But what if I want to write an external that does
                that? For cyclone, for instance, there could be an alpha
                channel for opacity/transparency, as the original ones
                have in Max.</div>
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              <div>I assume I'd have to use some other language as an
                alternative and so I'd like to ask for hints on which
                and also if it is even possible (I'm rather clueless,
                sorry). </div>
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              <div>I see Purr Data, which uses <span
                  style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:"Fix for
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80",system-ui,-apple-system,system-ui,".SFNSText-Regular",sans-serif;font-size:14px">NW.js,
                  offers an alpha channel, could I supposedly code an
                  external that uses such a language and load it in Pd
                  Vanilla? How?</span></div>
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80",system-ui,-apple-system,system-ui,".SFNSText-Regular",sans-serif;font-size:14px">Sorry
                  if I'm asking too basic and vague questions...</span></div>
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