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      <blockquote type="cite">so I was wondering if you had the same
        thing (and if you can share it temporarily with us)</blockquote>
      Ah, yes, that was the plan. I was so busy with the online concerts
      that I forgot about all the other people :-) I'll try to set it up
      over the weekend.</p>
    <p>Christof<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19.06.2020 21:37, ffdd cchh wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Christof, 
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        <div>Thanks for this. I wanted to write you off list to see if
          you can allow me (in argentina) and my postdoc mentor at Ohio
          State University to connect via aoo using a server of your
          own. We still have not setup port forwarding at osu and we'd
          need to get permissions for that. We have been using <a
            href="http://foo.ucsd.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">foo.ucsd.edu</a>
          for quacktrip, so I was wondering if you had the same thing
          (and if you can share it temporarily with us)</div>
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        <div>Best and more soon, </div>
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        <div>f</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 3:28
          PM Christof Ressi <<a href="mailto:info@christofressi.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">info@christofressi.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <p>Caveat: the doku folder currently is a bit messy, because
              many parts refer to the original AoO project from ca. 2010
              and the seperation is not always very clear...<br>
            </p>
            <p>For using the library, the readme.rst and the help
              patches should be sufficient.</p>
            <p>But I just realized that I forgot to install
              aoo_server-help.pd and the readme.rst... *facepalm*. This
              is fixed now on master, just grab the most recent build on
              <a href="https://git.iem.at/cm/aoo/pipelines"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.iem.at/cm/aoo/pipelines</a>.</p>
            <p>Christof<br>
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            <div>On 19.06.2020 19:03, ffdd cchh wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Thanks for the doku directory! I'll check
                it out more closely now and start using it.
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                <div>Congrats on this really cool project!</div>
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                <div>f </div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 19, 2020
                  at 7:34 AM Christof Ressi <<a
                    href="mailto:info@christofressi.com" target="_blank"
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                  wrote:<br>
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                  rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi, the
                  documentation for aoo_server/aoo_client was missing,
                  but I've <br>
                  know pushed it to develop. I'll try to upload a new
                  pre-release to deken <br>
                  today. In the meantime, you can grab the latest
                  binaries from here: <br>
                  <a href="https://git.iem.at/cm/aoo/pipelines"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.iem.at/cm/aoo/pipelines</a><br>
                  <br>
                  Any testing and feedback is highly appreciated! Don't
                  hesitate to open <br>
                  an issue at Gitlab if you encounter any troubles or
                  have questions.<br>
                  <br>
                  Christof<br>
                  <br>
                  On 19.06.2020 04:57, Fede Camara Halac wrote:<br>
                  > Great! Thanks, Christof, I'll get the develop
                  branch and go from there. If helpful I can test things
                  out.<br>
                  ><br>
                  > Best,<br>
                  ><br>
                  > f<br>
                  ><br>
                  >> On Jun 18, 2020, at 10:35 PM, Christof Ressi
                  <<a href="mailto:info@christofressi.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">info@christofressi.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> <br>
                  >>> so I wanted to know if aoo also sends
                  audio back and forth to peers behind home routers<br>
                  >> Not in 2.0-pre1, but it's already implemented
                  on develop. I'll try to finally get a new version out
                  as soon as possible.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Christof<br>
                  >><br>
                  >>> On 19.06.2020 03:04, Fede Camara Halac
                  wrote:<br>
                  >>> Hi list,<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> I've been trying to use aoo but I am
                  having troubles following the help files. Is there any
                  other place I can go look for documentation? I looked
                  through the VRR proyect, but I also fail to see the
                  network logic behind that.<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> I have been using Miller's quacktrip~, 
                  so I wanted to know if aoo also sends audio back and
                  forth to peers behind home routers (i.e., without
                  having port forwarding enabled).<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> Any pointers will be helpful! Thanks in
                  advance.<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> f<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>>>> On May 15, 2020, at 10:27 PM,
                  Christof Ressi <<a
                    href="mailto:info@christofressi.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">info@christofressi.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  >>>> Hi Marco,<br>
                  >>>><br>
                  >>>> thanks for testing! I think aoo
                  2.0-pre1 is broken on macOS. This has been fixed on
                  develop (together with many other things). I'd suggest
                  to wait for the next release, however, which will come
                  beginning of next week.<br>
                  >>>><br>
                  >>>> Best,<br>
                  >>>><br>
                  >>>> Christof<br>
                  >>>><br>
                  >>>>> On 16.05.2020 03:18, Marco
                  Schretter wrote:<br>
                  >>>>> dear winfried, dear christof,<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> thanks! aoo 2.0-pre1 is running
                  on my linux machines.<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> on osx i tried it with the deken
                  version and my compiled git-version but i get no bangs
                  on the ping-button, no sound on the receiver side when
                  i [start( . but i see all sinks/sources with [list(.<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> after opening patches:<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> new aoo server on port 9999<br>
                  >>>>> new aoo server on port 9998<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> input device 0, channels 1<br>
                  >>>>> output device 2, channels 2<br>
                  >>>>> framesperbuf 64, nbufs 60<br>
                  >>>>> rate 48000<br>
                  >>>>> ... opened OK.<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> after add:<br>
                  >>>>> aoo_receive~: source 127.0.0.1
                  9998 1<br>
                  >>>>> aoo_receive~: source 127.0.0.1
                  9999 1<br>
                  >>>>> SINK: 127.0.0.1 9999 1<br>
                  >>>>> SINK: 127.0.0.1 9998 1<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> i don't get errors in the console
                  but in the the terminal after clicking [start( and/or
                  [pd dsp 1(:<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> DSP tick(s) took too long!<br>
                  >>>>> sendto: Invalid argument (22)<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> osx 10.13.6<br>
                  >>>>> pd-0.50-0 (and others)<br>
                  >>>>> aoo 2.0-pre1<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>> yours,<br>
                  >>>>> m<br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>><br>
                  >>>>>> Am 04.04.20 um 13:37 schrieb
                  Winfried Ritsch:<br>
                  >>>>>> Thats fine,<br>
                  >>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>    you can get a compiled
                  newest version compiled by gitlab CI in<br>
                  >>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>          <a
                    href="https://git.iem.at/cm/aoo/pipelines/4075"
                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.iem.at/cm/aoo/pipelines/4075</a><br>
                  >>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>    also I hope deken packages
                  are out soon with a new version V2.0-a2<br>
                  >>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>> mfg winfried<br>
                  >>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>> Am Samstag, 4. April 2020,
                  12:18:53 CEST schrieb Edwin van der Heide:<br>
                  >>>>>>> Hi Winfried,<br>
                  >>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>> Thanks for news.<br>
                  >>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>> I’m going to learn how to
                  compile this for macos and try it out.<br>
                  >>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>> Best,<br>
                  >>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>> Edwin<br>
                  >>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> On 3 Apr 2020, at
                  00:40, Winfried Ritsch<<a
                    href="mailto:ritsch@iem.at" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">ritsch@iem.at</a>>  wrote:<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> Hello,<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> Thanks Christof Ressi
                  the old concept was rewritten and short-comes using<br>
                  >>>>>>>> the build-in network
                  objects has been resolved and own networking code<br>
                  >>>>>>>> added. (see doku
                  there for history and ideas)<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> <a
                    href="http://git.iem.at/cm/aoo" rel="noreferrer"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://git.iem.at/cm/aoo</a><br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> (Note it is an alpha
                  version, but beta should follow soon)<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> The feature list is
                  huge, but mostly:<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> - it supports raw
                  audio and opus audio codec:<br>
                  >>>>>>>>    small latencies
                  for playing together - long buffers for long range<br>
                  >>>>>>>>    streams<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> - it supports time
                  synchronous streaming and resend strategies<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>>    overcoming packet
                  loss and network weakness<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> - it monitors the
                  connections quality and latencies<br>
                  >>>>>>>> - it is prepared fot
                  punch-hole connections trough firewalls and ...<br>
                  >>>>>>>> ...<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> This is also a
                  Request for Comments:<br>
                  >>>>>>>>         get it - test
                  it - use it - comment and report - to enhance it<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> ---<br>
                  >>>>>>>> Note: The development
                  was done within the Streaming Project Reenactment<br>
                  >>>>>>>> for<br>
                  >>>>>>>> "Sonic projections"
                  in the exhibition "Primal energies" from Bill Fontana<br>
                  >>>>>>>> - Kunsthaus Graz
                  using the community "FunkFeuer Graz" network .<br>
                  >>>>>>>> ( All artwork in
                  museums are closed except this one on the facade  )<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> with a mix of Arm
                  based streaming devices:  the DIYasb  it runs now
                  stable<br>
                  >>>>>>>> for over a month all
                  over Funkfeuer Graz.:<br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> see also:<a
                    href="https://git.iem.at/cm/diyasb" rel="noreferrer"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://git.iem.at/cm/diyasb</a><br>
                  >>>>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>>> mfG Winfried<br>
                  >>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>><br>
                  >>>>>>
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