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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In pd_defaultbang, what is
          the reasoning for calling the list method with a null selector
          while calling the <br>
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      contrary to the list method, the selector for the anything method
      *does* carry significant meaning. At the very least, it's
      necessary for the default anything method (which prints an error
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    <p>Christof<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21.06.2020 00:29, Christof Ressi
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      <p>Ah, sorry, I misread you're last reply. I thought you were
        repeating your first question :-)<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21.06.2020 00:24, Christof Ressi
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        <p>Did you read the discussion I've linked too? To quote Miller:</p>
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        <blockquote type="cite">I'm not sure this is a real problem -
          _anything and _list methods simply aren't guaranteed<br>
          anything about the "s" argument - it shouldn't ever be
          dereferenced.</blockquote>
        <p>I think this is the answer to your question. Since the
          selector of a list message is actually redundant, you're free
          to pass NULL.<br>
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        <p>Christof<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21.06.2020 00:16, Jonathan
          Wilkes wrote:<br>
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                      <div>> Hi, the selector for a list method
                        certainly shouldn't be "bang", rather it should
                        be "list". <br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Let's back up.</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Miller,</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In
                        pd_defaultbang, what is the reasoning for
                        calling the list method with a null selector
                        while calling the <br>
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">anything method
                        with an "&s_bang" selector?</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks,</div>
                      <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Jonathan<br>
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                      <p>> There has been a discussion about this in
                        the past and I have agree with IOhannes that Pd
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                      <p>> Christof<br clear="none">
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                          20.06.2020 21:19, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
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                          <div dir="ltr">Hi Miller,</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">In pd_defaultbang of m_class.c,
                            why does the list method get called with "0"
                            for a selector instead of "&s_bang" for
                            the c_listmethod invocation?</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Best,</div>
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