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    <p>Ah, sorry, I misread you're last reply. I thought you were
      repeating your first question :-)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21.06.2020 00:24, Christof Ressi
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      <p>Did you read the discussion I've linked too? To quote Miller:</p>
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      <blockquote type="cite">I'm not sure this is a real problem -
        _anything and _list methods simply aren't guaranteed<br>
        anything about the "s" argument - it shouldn't ever be
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      <p>I think this is the answer to your question. Since the selector
        of a list message is actually redundant, you're free to pass
        NULL.<br>
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      <p>Christof<br>
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                    <div>> Hi, the selector for a list method
                      certainly shouldn't be "bang", rather it should be
                      "list". <br>
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                    <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Let's back up.</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Miller,</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In
                      pd_defaultbang, what is the reasoning for calling
                      the list method with a null selector while calling
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                      with an "&s_bang" selector?</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks,</div>
                    <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Jonathan<br>
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                    <p>> There has been a discussion about this in
                      the past and I have agree with IOhannes that Pd
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                    <p>> Christof<br clear="none">
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                        20.06.2020 21:19, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
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                        <div dir="ltr">In pd_defaultbang of m_class.c,
                          why does the list method get called with "0"
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