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<p>As a relative newbie to PD, let me suggest that PurrData is old,
and incomplete. Unless you have a very specific reason for using
it, PD Vanilla is the one to use. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/28/2020 9:42 AM, Jakob Laue wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi!</div>
<div>Alright, so I have looked a little bit into pdparty and
mobmuplat. Seriously these are cool projects!</div>
<div>But I would like to have standalone apps, so it seems that
I cannot use both of them..</div>
<div>Maybe I need to go for ofelia then or try native coding.</div>
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<div>But it is also interesting what you mentioned about
purr-data. I have heard of it a lot, but i dont know what it
is. You mentioned that purr-data is able to port the native
guis to non-tk-frameworks. Does this mean e.g. porting to iOS?
I guess I need to take a look into purr-data as well:)</div>
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<div>All the best, jakob</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag,
21. Juni 2020 um 20:15 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Dan Wilcox" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com"><danomatika@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>An:</b> "Jakob Laue" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jakkesprinter@web.de"><jakkesprinter@web.de></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> "Pd-List" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at"><pd-list@lists.iem.at></a>,
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"enrike" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:altern2@gmail.com"><altern2@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [PD] getting vanilla gui objects
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<div>Howdy Jakob,
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<div>There is no "standalone GUI" for mobile. The UI
widgets for PdDroidParty and my own PdParty are
custom re-implementations which intercept messages
using sends/receives. Both apps are open source, so
you can reuse the widgets but PdDroidParty's
implementation is not feature complete, ie. no radio
buttons, etc. MobMuPlat, for instance, uses the Pd
UI implementation form PdParty.
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<div>For mobile, it's often better to use the native
sliders and buttons and send the state changes
to/from libpd. Either way, you will have to do
native platform coding & integration, unless
you simply want to run patches, in which case try
using PdParty and/or PdDroidParty.</div>
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<div>My long-term plan is to bring changes into
libpd & the pd core so GUI messaging could be
abstracted to make porting the native UIs to
non-Tk frameworks easier. Purr-data has achieved
this, for instance, so we know it's possible.
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<div>On Jun 21, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Christof
Ressi <<a
href="mailto:info@christofressi.com"
onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:info@christofressi.com';
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>on desktop it's easy: just bundle Pd
with your patch, add a simple starter
script and maybe use the KIOSK plugin to
hide the console.</p>
<p>Mobile is tricky, because of the locked
down nature of the platforms (especially
iOS). There are projects to run Pd
patches on Android (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://droidparty.net/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://droidparty.net/</a>)
and iOS (<a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty</a>)
with some compatibility between the two
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty/guide#pddroid-party-compatibility"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty/guide#pddroid-party-compatibility</a>).
You have to follow some conventions,
though.</p>
<p>If you design your patch for PdParty
and/or PdDroidParty and don't use mobile
specific features, it should
automatically work in desktop Pd
vanilla. I think @Dan can tell you more
about it.</p>
<p>Christof</p>
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12:16, Jakob Laue wrote:</div>
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<div>Hey dear friends,</div>
<div>i am currently building an
instrument with many vanilla-native
gui objects (mainly buttons).</div>
<div>I would like to build standalone
versions of that patch, preferably
for linux, osx, ios and android.</div>
<div>I know that building standalones
is possible eg with ofxPof or
ofelia. But as far as i know, if i
use ofxPof or ofelia, I will need to
use "their" gui objects, which means
re-working my patch.</div>
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<div>Do you know of a tool that allows
building standalone versions from a
pd patch that will keep the original
pd-vanilla-gui objects - or even
better - a tool that is able to
"convert" pd-vanilla-gui objects
into its own types of gui objects,
which look maybe a bit different
from the pd-object, but fulfill the
same purpose?</div>
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<div>:-)))</div>
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<div>Best, jakob</div>
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