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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Especially with [select], it's hard to check its internal state. Maybe
a possibility for introspection is lacking here? </pre>
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[select] doesn't have any more internal state than, say, [+]. It
is not special in any way. <br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">A new 'introspect' method, that would print the current state to the console?</pre>
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Please no :-)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22.09.2020 09:37, Roman Haefeli
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On Mon, 2020-09-21 at 17:16 +0800, Matt Davey wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I am aware of the workarounds, and have put one in place to fix this
now.
That's not the issue here. The issue is that accidentally sending a
list to the select object invisibly changes its behaviour and can
produce some hard to find bugs in big patches.
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I don't quite see why you are singling out [select]. To my knowledge,
all control objects distribute incoming lists across there inlets.
There is nothing special in [select] here. Also, it's pretty common in
Pd that you can override creation arguments without the visual
representation not reflect it. Personally, I find this discussion moot.
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">There are lots of other objects where this could happen, but [sel] is
somewhat unique in that it won't output incorrect values to its main
outlet but rather just stops sending bangs and sends to its second
outlet.
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Especially with [select], it's hard to check its internal state. Maybe
a possibility for introspection is lacking here? A new 'introspect'
method, that would print the current state to the console?
Roman
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