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<div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">> On Thursday, January 21, 2021, 10:14:19 PM EST, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
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<div>> that's right - savestate just lets a patch add stuff to its parent<br clear="none">(calling) patch when the parent is saved, that is retrieved when reloaded<br clear="none">from a file. I don't know of other meanings of "savestate" although the<br clear="none">name does (unfortunately) suggest that it's for object archiving ala<br clear="none">NeXTStep (and I think earlier from Smalltalk).<br clear="none"><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">At first glance "savestate" seemed like it might be related to "state saving," e.g., a core class that provides the hooks necessary to take a "snapshots" at will of system state without requiring the user to prepare the patch for that purpose ahead of time.<br></div><div><br></div>cheers<br clear="none">M<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 03:05:02AM +0000, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:<br clear="none">> > On Thursday, January 21, 2021, 6:35:34 PM EST, cyrille henry <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ch@chnry.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ch@chnry.net</a>> wrote: <br clear="none">> > here we are :<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://xkcd.com/927/__;!!Mih3wA!R6uAxiWLBX_uU5Ci0LdXHpjrQ9nqMwFrdbZWOnVFuZoBOC0XTicG-OTEv7cY$ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://xkcd.com/927/__;!!Mih3wA!R6uAxiWLBX_uU5Ci0LdXHpjrQ9nqMwFrdbZWOnVFuZoBOC0XTicG-OTEv7cY$ </a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> This case seems more like the Lisp problem-- every single user has their own non-standard, incompatible, and deeply personal solution to the problem.<br clear="none">> Also-- do I have it right that the only relevant native core class "savestate" isn't about statesaving in its common parlance, but is instead a callback hard-coded to the "save" event that writes a patch file to the filesystem? That's what the guts looked like when I ported it to Purr Data, but I haven't really used it yet.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> -Jonathan<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Le 21/01/2021 ?? 20:48, Antoine Rousseau a ??crit??:<br clear="none">> > You can also have a look to my "AutoPreset" system. It's available from deken. It's rather old, but that's what I use every day...<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > Le jeu. 21 janv. 2021 ?? 19:39, Alexandre Torres Porres <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>>> a ??crit??:<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> >?? ?? Em qui., 21 de jan. de 2021 ??s 15:09, Alexandre Torres Porres <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:porres@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">porres@gmail.com</a>>> escreveu:<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> >?? ?? ?? ?? I??now included "import" and "export" functions so [savestate] can be used in conjunction<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> >?? ?? Just making clear this design allows each instance to be saved with separate presets in a parent patch. Not that I find it crucial. I guess that 2 sharing the same preset bank should be fine for most cases. So using a file to load and save inside the abstraction (as it was possible before) was kinda fine. So this is where I start to think I could be compromising my beloved "KISS" principle... but I was already thinking??import/export was nice to allow people to store these things in the patch rather than a file, so it's cool. It's versatile and still simple enough.<br clear="none">> > <br clear="none">> >?? ?? _______________________________________________<br clear="none">> >?? ?? <a shape="rect" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a> <mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>> mailing list<br clear="none">> >?? ?? 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