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<p>Hey,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23.11.2021 18:06, Alexandre Torres
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<div dir="ltr">Ok, as the first email to the list about it, here
are some thoughts for starters :)
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<div>- Now connections get grayed out when making new
connections. Haven't really gotten used to it, what's everyone
else idea on this? Can we make this an optional feature to
check/activate somewhere and leave the default as it were?</div>
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Personally, I quite like it. Yes, it is a bit unsettling in the
beginning, but I think it's one of those things that you get
accustomed to very quickly.<br>
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<div><b><u>Related to atoms/list boxes:</u></b></div>
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<div>- The shortcut for symbol box (cmd+4) is gone, it now load
the list box instead, no shortcut is given for symbol and the
next shortcut (cmd+5) is for comments as before. Why not have
list as shortcut cmd+5 and comments get cmd+6?<br>
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I think *changing* existing shortcuts is a bad idea. So I think we
should leave the shortcuts as they were and use cmd+6 for the new
list atom. After all, a list atom is *not* a drop-in replacement for
a symbol atom (numbers and spaces are handled differently!)<br>
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<div>- the symbol box by default now is much wider, I always
have to make it shorter, who needs that big boxes most the
time? can't we make the same as before?</div>
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I tend to agree. I think Miller just used the same default width for
both list atoms and symbol atoms.<br>
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<div>- something is funny on symbol boxes, if I type a number in
it and sendd it to [float], float does not understand it and
cannot convert it anymore to float.</div>
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Actually, the problem is really this: when you type a number in
symbol box and hit enter, the text just disappears and it outputs an
empty symbol. Of course, [float] can't convert empty symbols :-)<br>
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<div>- also float/symbol/list boxes. If I type '$0-x' as a send
or receive name, I get '#0-x' when I reopen the preferences.
This used to be something that happened for iemguis and we
fixed it, but now these boxes have it.</div>
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Confirmed! As a side note, we still can't have "#" in atom labels
:-(<br>
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<div>- if I type "hi, there" in a list box I get an unescaped
(and seemingly ilegal) "," symbol.</div>
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<p>Generally, list atoms contain FUDI strings and colons, semicolons
and dollars have special meanings. You have to escape them
explicitly if you want them to part of a symbol.</p>
<p>"foo,bar" -> 3 atoms</p>
<p>"foo\,bar" -> 1 symbol atom</p>
<p>However, you're right that the list atom forgets to bash those
special to symbols, so you end up with A_SEMI, A_COMMA, A_DOLLAR
and A_DOLLSYM atoms on the patch level - which is bad!</p>
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<div>cheers<br>
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13:45, Miller Puckette <<a href="mailto:msp@ucsd.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">msp@ucsd.edu</a>>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I
think my e-mails aren't making it to pd-announce for some
reason.<br>
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Anyway, yes, 0.52-0 test 2 is out :)<br>
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Miller<br>
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:20:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres
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> Test it out. <a href="http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html</a><br>
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> now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from
Pd-announce for the test<br>
> versions as usual, how come?<br>
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> I have some issues I have to report, by the way.<br>
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> cheers<br>
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