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      <blockquote type="cite">it's the addition of "$0" for messages,
        seems like there's something still "wrong" with it?</blockquote>
      Personally, I think it would simplify so many patches and I would
      really like to see this happening.</p>
    <p>This has been discussed at length in the mailing lists several
      times and it seems some people have a problem with it on a
      conceptual level (which I never quite understood). But on a
      practical level it seems like such a non-brainer... Dunno...</p>
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    <p>Anyway, I think a test release is the probably the wrong time to
      add features. We should rather focus on fixing the remaining
      regressions.</p>
    <p>Let's hope for Pd 0.53 :-)<br>
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    <p>Christof</p>
    <p>PS: there is also <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/627">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/627</a>
      which has been sitting idle for over 2 years now and I don't
      really know why... seems like a perfectly cromulent feature to me
      :-)</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23.11.2021 21:10, Alexandre Torres
      Porres wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEAsFmiv2WTM+ccOiBvN+5Yz6VjnPMd4oGgcn1oaDLh=mAtktg@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">and now for things we also usually ask in response
        to test release announcements :) 
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        <div>I'm just curious on why this feature has been held for so
          long since it's been flagged for inclusion back in the 0.49
          release (and now 0.52), it's the addition of "$0" for
          messages, seems like there's something still "wrong" with it?
          => <a
            href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/347"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/347</a>
          I ask because I've been improving the documentation of
          handling "$0" in Pd, and it'd be much easier with it. </div>
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        <div>I also got a couple of new PRs that promote quick/minor
          changes to code that I consider 'bug fixes' from a
          documentation point of view: 1) Get rid of useless [bang~]
          inlet (<a
            href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1471"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1471</a>)
          cause I don't think it makes sense to document that it has no
          functionality (and this won't break any patches); 2) add bang
          method to [atan2] (<a
            href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1465"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1465</a>),
          because all other similar math/binary operators do this and
          it's just harder and more confusing to document a special
          inconsistent case. This is specially needed now that I'm
          adding references subpatches with info on i/olets and methods.</div>
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        <div>cheers</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às
          15:29, Antoine Rousseau <<a
            href="mailto:antoine@metalu.net" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">antoine@metalu.net</a>>
          escreveu:<br>
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                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
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                <div>leave the shortcuts as they were and use cmd+6 for
                  the new list atom</div>
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              <div>+1</div>
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