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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.11.2021 17:12, Christof Ressi
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>it's very common to upload test releases to Deken. They usually
have suffixes like "alpha", "beta", "pre", "test" in their
version number to make it clear that they are not stable
releases. Pd users are really used to install any externals with
Deken. Manual downloads are really the exception nowadays.<br>
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<p>Care needs to be taken that the final release is ordered
*before* the test releases by having a lexicographically
*larger* version number. For example, "v0.1" is smaller than
"v0.1-test" (= bad).</p>
<p>To circumvent this problem, Deken sorts "~" before everything
else, so you can safely use "v0.1~test". The only caveat is that
"~" is not allowed in git tags, which can be a problem for
certain CI setups where the version number is derived from the
git tag.<br>
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<p>Another trick is to include a bug fix number for the final
release: "v0.1.0" ranks higher than "v0.1-test"</p>
<p>Christof<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24.11.2021 16:55, Iain Duncan
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<div dir="ltr">Hi, yes they will be added to the package
manager, in due time. Perhaps I'm in a minority here, but my
perspective from a couple of decades of doing software is that
package managers should only hold releases that are definitely
stable and production ready. One only has one chance for a
first impression, and if new users hit problems with something
in a package manager, it reflects badly on the project. When
they hit the same issues after downloading a package marked
"beta" from GitHub, it's quite a different impression. My
opinion is that what I get from NPM or PyPi better "just
work". :-)
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<div>So I need some reports from people on windows that
installation and first steps are going smoothly, and then I
will put it up in Deken. I would imagine it should be up in
the next month.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 7:21
AM IOhannes m zmölnig <<a href="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at"
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P. wrote:<br>
> unless you have already done this, do you think of
adding these binaries<br>
> to Pd's "Deken" Package manager?<br>
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