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<blockquote type="cite">As I see it, one can already build FAT
externals if they want to.</blockquote>
No, you can't. I think you're confusing this with fat binaries on
macOS containing different architectures (which is not related).<br>
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<p>At the moment, there is just no "official" strategy how to handle
double precision externals. Of course, you can compile externals
-DPD_FLOATSIZE=64, but how do you install them next to single
precision externals? How should they be managed by Deken? These
are all still open questions at the moment. There are various
possible solutions, but no consensus.<br>
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<p>On the other hand, we *could* release double precision Pd without
official support for externals. I'm just not sure if this is a
good idea... Personally, think we should first stabilize the
API/ABI.<br>
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<p>Christof<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26.11.2021 17:02, Alexandre Torres
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em sex., 26 de nov. de 2021
às 10:50, Christof Ressi <<a
href="mailto:info@christofressi.com"
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escreveu:<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">@Lucarda Thanks for the
link!<br>
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There is some more discussion in the linked issue: <br>
<a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/900"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/900</a><br>
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@porres As you can see, there are practical problems which
need to be <br>
solved before making it official.<br>
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<div>I don't really get what is the issue though. As I see it,
one can already build FAT externals if they want to. The
fact that none (or very few) libraries are available or will
be shouldn't be an actual concern as well, as I consider
that this is a third party issue. If Pd Vanilla nicely fully
runs in double precision, that should grant its release as a
package binary out there so people can start fiddling with
it, even though they're not using externals.</div>
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<div>What I consider more proper is updating the documentation
to tell the difference and also different behaviour of a
particular object (specially array objects like
[tabread4~]), but that can easily be done and I can take
care of that. </div>
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<div>I mean, Pd-ceammc has already been shipping itself with
double precision binaries and I understand they're just
using vanilla's core, no code changes.</div>
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<div>Discussions on new strategies to build external libraries
can happen later and for a next release. And will probably
get more traction once the double precision beast is out of
the cage.<br>
<br>
What am I missing? What doesn't make sense here?</div>
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<div>cheers</div>
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Anyway, I think it's a good idea to start discussing this
again *after* <br>
Pd 0.52 has been released as there are still enough issues
that need our <br>
attention :-)<br>
<br>
Christof<br>
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On 26.11.2021 13:04, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:<br>
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> On 11/26/2021 8:48 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:<br>
>> Can you pinpoint the issue? what do we have to
decide on externals?<br>
>><br>
>> ceammc already offers a double precision download
for vanilla, I <br>
>> would also like to start providing my externals for
that too <br>
>> (cyclone/ELSE).<br>
>><br>
>> What do I need to do?<br>
>><br>
>> cheers<br>
>><br>
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> <a
href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/902"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/902</a><br>
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> -- <br>
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> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.<br>
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