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<blockquote type="cite"> What am I risking in getting ceammc from
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Nothing. Perhaps it overwrites you single precision ceammc folder.
If precision does not match Pd refuse to load (IIRC).</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/26/2021 1:36 PM, Alexandre Torres
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às 13:33, Lucas Cordiviola <<a href="mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">lucarda27@hotmail.com</a>>
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<p>@porres Pd-ceammc builds Pd and their externals (for
double) using default file extension.<br>
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@christof Deken is prepared for that.
"vstplugin~[v0.5.3](Windows-amd64-32).dek". See the last
-32 should be -64 for double.</p>
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<div>yup, ceammc shows up as "Darwin-amd64-64" for me here,
and the binary is "ceammc.d_amd64"</div>
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<div>On 11/26/2021 1:17 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">As I see it, one can already
build FAT externals if they want to.</blockquote>
No, you can't. I think you're confusing this with fat
binaries on macOS containing different architectures
(which is not related).<br>
<p>At the moment, there is just no "official" strategy
how to handle double precision externals. Of course,
you can compile externals -DPD_FLOATSIZE=64, but how
do you install them next to single precision
externals? How should they be managed by Deken? These
are all still open questions at the moment. There are
various possible solutions, but no consensus.<br>
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<p>On the other hand, we *could* release double
precision Pd without official support for externals.
I'm just not sure if this is a good idea...
Personally, think we should first stabilize the
API/ABI.<br>
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Thanks for the link!<br>
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There is some more discussion in the linked
issue: <br>
<a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/900" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/900</a><br>
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@porres As you can see, there are practical
problems which need to be <br>
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<div>I don't really get what is the issue though.
As I see it, one can already build FAT externals
if they want to. The fact that none (or very
few) libraries are available or will be
shouldn't be an actual concern as well, as I
consider that this is a third party issue. If Pd
Vanilla nicely fully runs in double precision,
that should grant its release as a package
binary out there so people can start fiddling
with it, even though they're not using
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<div>What I consider more proper is updating the
documentation to tell the difference and also
different behaviour of a particular object
(specially array objects like [tabread4~]), but
that can easily be done and I can take care of
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<div>I mean, Pd-ceammc has already been shipping
itself with double precision binaries and I
understand they're just using vanilla's core, no
code changes.</div>
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<div>Discussions on new strategies to build
external libraries can happen later and for a
next release. And will probably get more
traction once the double precision beast is out
of the cage.<br>
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What am I missing? What doesn't make sense here?</div>
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<div>cheers</div>
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Anyway, I think it's a good idea to start
discussing this again *after* <br>
Pd 0.52 has been released as there are still
enough issues that need our <br>
attention :-)<br>
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> On 11/26/2021 8:48 AM, Alexandre Torres
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>> Can you pinpoint the issue? what do we
have to decide on externals?<br>
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>> ceammc already offers a double
precision download for vanilla, I <br>
>> would also like to start providing my
externals for that too <br>
>> (cyclone/ELSE).<br>
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>> What do I need to do?<br>
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>> cheers<br>
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> <a href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/902" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/902</a><br>
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