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<p>The first one is mentioned in [pd Dynamic-Patching],
although it might be easier to understand if there is an
example immediately under the text.</p>
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<div>what do you mean by "immediately under the text"?</div>
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<p>just a couple of objects under the paragraph where it explains
it. then it's more didactical - although the whole patch is full
of such examples, anyway.<br>
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<p>The second isn't mentioned at all, the search results
for "abstraction" and ".pd" return elements in other
types of contexts.<br>
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<div>You can see I also mentioned, in the same way as
subpatches, that you can communicate with Pd patches, and
I also have examples for that case so people could
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<div>I guess I can be more clear that an abstraction is a Pd
file, but that seemed obvious to me. I also didn't want to
give an explicit example with an abstraction cause then I'd
have to create yet another file. But this might be a good
thing to call them both in th help file of namecanvas and
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<p>I think you didn't understand - if you have an abstraction called
"abs1" used in the patch, sending messages to pd-abs1 won't work.
They need to be sent to pd-abs1.pd - and that could be clearly
named in the documentation.<br>
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<div>But I also made it clear how [namecanvas] is useful for
abstractions in its help file, that I emphatically tell
people to check for reference. And I don't think it makes
sense to talk to an abstraction using its filename, cause
you can't just communicate with a single abstraction. I also
don't know of a use case that from a parent patch you need
to send messages to abstractions like that. Seems like the
sane way to communicate with abstractions is via inlets. <br>
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<p>I have an abstraction which is a midiroll-type of score with more
than 35000 structs. As this is calculated dynamically when the
main patch opens, so that I don't have to overload pd when
programming. This is used only for the graphical display, so there
are no other objects besides the structs. It is a quite peculiar
situation,anyway.</p>
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