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<blockquote type="cite">It is harder if you want true dynamic
allocation</blockquote>
I made a PR which allows to set the number cloned instances at
runtime with a [resize( message:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1069">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1069</a></p>
<p>Without reading the code, I guess it could also simplify Thomas'
[mc~].</p>
<p>If you like it, please upvote (not that I think it would make a
big difference, but at least I win some internet points)<br>
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<p>Christof<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08.12.2021 17:10, Dan Wilcox wrote:<br>
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<div class="">you can do this without dynamic patching using clone
and (send~/receive~) or (throw~/catch~) objects.
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<div class="">I believe I sent someone an example some months
ago but the use case was dynamically routing 8 channel file
output to dac~ channels randomly:</div>
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href="https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead/tree/master/3.Audio/rand8player"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead/tree/master/3.Audio/rand8player</a></div>
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<div class="">The idea is the same though: abstractions loaded
in clone objects which route input to output and apply gain
and/or pan, etc in between. To enable/disable, I generally use
switch~ plus a gain ramp to avoid clicks. When an abstraction
is switched off, you save a good amount of CPU so it's worth
adding. You then send control messages into clone with the id
or all prepended. If you have gain fading and the timing
right, you can avoid clicks when configuring connections on
the fly.</div>
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<div class="">This approach works well when you know the upper
limit of the various components, ie. you have a max of 64
outputs, etc. It is harder if you want true dynamic allocation
(although wrapper abstractions help).</div>
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<div class="">If you want a deployed example check out the
Zirkonium spatialization server: <a
href="https://github.com/zkmkarlsruhe/ZirkoniumSpatializationServer"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/zkmkarlsruhe/ZirkoniumSpatializationServer</a></div>
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<div class="">It has multiple layers which can be dynamically
configured:</div>
<div class="">* inputs: adc~</div>
<div class="">* sourcefiles: up to 8 channels each</div>
<div class="">* ids: maps input or source file channel to
spatialized location (ie. vbap gains per speaker) or direct
output channel</div>
<div class="">* speaker: virtual speaker, receives spatialized
id audio and maps to output</div>
<div class="">* outputs: dac~<br class="">
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<div>By default, there are 64 instances for each layer.</div>
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<div>There is also a `modularization` branch which abstracts
the zirk_server so you can pass the number of layer objects
used by clone via creation arguments. This allows for
creating more or fewer instances, as needed but not via
dynamic patching, ala zirk_server64.pd is just a wrapper for
zirk_server.pd with "[zirk_server 64 64 64 64 64]" inside.</div>
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<div><a
href="https://github.com/zkmkarlsruhe/ZirkoniumSpatializationServer/tree/modularization"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/zkmkarlsruhe/ZirkoniumSpatializationServer/tree/modularization</a></div>
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<div>I may make a simpler input -> id -> output example
at some point as the Zirkonium server is admittedly overkill
to learn from.</div>
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0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">have exactly the same
amount of inlets/outlets. all i need to do is load</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">them up, hook the I/O up
to the slot, and delete them when desired. the</span><br
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0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">instruments will be
abstractions, not subpatches.</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">i would just need a way
for the slot to know when an abstraction is loaded</span><br
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0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">or deleted. i can
uniquely name each slot if that would work better for</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">this, though i could
probably have a flag, number or string indicating what</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">state the slot is in -
like 'add', 'remove', 'active' and 'disabled' or</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">whatever.</span><br
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<br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">i have briefly watched a
bit of the Youtube video on dynamic patching, but</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">rather than roll my own i
thought i'd inquire about libraries or externals</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">that could handle it. i
think iemguts can handle the querying it seems, but</span><br
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0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">the docs don't make it
clear how objects (abstractions) are instanced and</span><br
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0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">deleted or connected. i
don't need to move anything - just load and connect</span><br
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display:
inline !important;" class="">an abstraction directly
under a slot or delete it. any help appreciated!</span><br
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