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    <p>Hi Dudley. <br>
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    <p>I spent more than 10 years working on this, basically giving it
      away for musicians who want to use it, and at no profit for me. I
      would like at some point to be able to get some return on the
      time, and it seems to me that the only option is to try to protect
      the source code.<br>
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    <p>Regarding your comments:</p>
    <p>- the objects were "entagled" with jmmmp/jp.garble</p>
    <p>- I "might" have added some hundreds of non-useful objects to
      some subpatches just to annoy anyone who tries to clean it up<br>
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    <p>- none of these are failsafe, but I only know how to program in
      Pd, so it's the only protection I could think of.</p>
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    <p>If you're interested in how the Click Tracker works etc., I would
      suggest to have a look at the paper I presented some years ago
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.uni-weimar.de/kunst-und-gestaltung/wiki/PDCON:Conference/Click_Tracker:_Performance/composition_tool_for_metrically_complex_scores">https://www.uni-weimar.de/kunst-und-gestaltung/wiki/PDCON:Conference/Click_Tracker:_Performance/composition_tool_for_metrically_complex_scores</a>
      - most of it is still current.</p>
    <p>Or to ask me directly. I doubt I will send you the original
      patch, but I can answer questions in text.</p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Joao<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">May I ask please: If you look at the
        various pd objects in ClickTracker using CTL-E, why are most of
        the objects all slammed together in one corner (and consequently
        all the wires "tangled")?<br>
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        I like to examine other people's Pd programs to learn more about
        programming in Pd ... so I once spent two full days completely
        untangling ClickTracker.<br>
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        And I discovered this in the main part of the program:<br>
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        Or something lack that, with something like 195 objects (I
        forget how many) ... and with nothing connected to the first
        input, and the last output not connecting to anything.<br>
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        What is that about?<br>
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        Thanks.<br>
        <br>
        I apologize.  I'm not at all complaining -- it's a great
        program!<br>
        <br>
        But I'm just totally mystified about why the insides of the
        program look like this.<br>
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        On 3/11/22 3:17 AM, João Pais wrote:<br>
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        Dear list,<br>
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          Version 2.3 of the Click Tracker is out.<br>
          <p>This version was generously supported by the Quatuor
            Bozzini (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="https://www.quatuorbozzini.ca/"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.quatuorbozzini.ca/</a>),
            and reflects mainly improvements gained from the perspective
            of the users.</p>
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          <br>
          The new features are divided into 3 categories:<br>
          Syntax features:<br>
          - added meters with mixed denominators<br>
          - added "x Y" command to repeat inputed events<br>
          - added fermatas<br>
          GUI features:<br>
          - new GUI layout<br>
          - removed "record" button<br>
          - added reset button for pickup bar<br>
          GUI features for the application and Max patch:<br>
          - added file drop to open a score<br>
          - change the window size to scale the contents<br>
          - added new control keys g l t u, also combined with shift for
          reset<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          As in the previous version, you can use in any of the
          following ways:<br>
          - as an android app (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="https://bit.ly/click-tracker-mob"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/click-tracker-mob</a>
          or <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="https://bit.ly/clicktracker-playstore"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/clicktracker-playstore</a>)<br>
          - as a closed desktop app in windows (<a
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3Win"
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3Win</a>)
          or apple (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3Apple"
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3Apple</a>)<br>
          <br>
          Due to Apple's recent security settings, you'll need to allow
          the Pd and other externals to run on your system.<br>
          WARNING: M1 users will need to run the program with Rosetta.<br>
          <br>
          - as the traditional Pure Data patch (<a
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="https://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3</a>)<br>
          - as a Max/MSP patch in windows (<a
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3MaxWin"
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3MaxWin</a>)
          or apple (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3MaxApple"
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://bit.ly/ClickTracker2-3MaxApple</a>)<br>
          <br>
          For more information, refer to the Click Tracker's website at
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://j.mp/click-tracker" moz-do-not-send="true">http://j.mp/click-tracker</a>.<br>
           <br>
          You can also visit the Click Tracker on facebook - <a
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://j.mp/clicktrackerfb" moz-do-not-send="true">http://j.mp/clicktrackerfb</a>,
          or check out the click track library in <a
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
            href="http://jmmmp.github.io/clicktracker/index-library"
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://jmmmp.github.io/clicktracker/index-library</a>.<br>
           <br>
          With best regards,<br>
           <br>
          João Pais<br>
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Click Tracker Mobile - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bit.ly/click-tracker-mob" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/click-tracker-mob</a>
Click Tracker Website - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://j.mp/click-tracker" moz-do-not-send="true">http://j.mp/click-tracker</a>
Click Tracker Library - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bit.ly/ClickTrackerLibrary" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bit.ly/ClickTrackerLibrary</a>
Facebook - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://j.mp/clicktrackerfb" moz-do-not-send="true">http://j.mp/clicktrackerfb</a></pre>
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