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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes, but then you’re running under emulation – don’t know how well it works, but native arm64 runs *<b>much</b>* faster (like 3 times faster in my non-scientific estimate for my own setup).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Edwin van der Heide <pd@evdh.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:29 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>PD-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at>, Philip Stone <pkstone@ucdavis.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">You can open PD with Rosetta and all the intel libraries are available. See checkbox:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On 29 Mar 2022, at 18:45, Philip Stone via Pd-list <<a href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On an M1 Mac, Deken will only show Darwin-arm64 externals (that is, if you have the ‘Hide foreign architectures’ option checked, which I believe is the default). If that box is unchecked, you’ll see all architectures.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If you have old Darwin-amd64-32 externals lying around (like I did) Pd will attempt to load them, but will throw an error complaining about the mismatched architecture.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Davis, CA USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:02:11 -0300<br>
From: Alexandre Torres Porres <<a href="mailto:porres@gmail.com">porres@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Em seg., 28 de mar. de 2022 ?s 07:17, Dan Wilcox <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>><br>
escreveu:<br>
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> Howdy Miller,<br>
><br>
> the macOS 10.10+ build is working fine and supports both x86_64 & arm64. I<br>
> think you can remove the link to my previous 0.52-1 arm64-only build on the<br>
> download page.<br>
><br>
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Great to know that, so let me see if I get it straight. If you have an<br>
apple silicon, it'll run under the hood the arm code and then it will only<br>
find and load 'arm64' externals? Or can you load both externals types? How<br>
does it work?<br>
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Oh, and Miller's site should say it is a universal binary ready for the new<br>
macs!<br>
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cheers<br>
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> If you have an apple silicon, it'll run under the hood the?arm code <br>
> and then it will only find and load 'arm64' externals?<br>
From my understanding, yes. For that reason, I guess it's not a good <br>
idea to provide universal binaries at this point and we should rather <br>
ship seperate binaries. Once most externals are available as universal <br>
binaries, we might ship Pd as a universal binary as well.<br>
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Of course, you can always force apps to run under Rosetta, but I don't <br>
think that's a good user experience.<br>
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Christof<br>
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On 29.03.2022 16:02, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:<br>
> Em seg., 28 de mar. de 2022 ?s 07:17, Dan Wilcox <br>
> <<a href="mailto:danomatika@gmail.com">danomatika@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br>
><br>
> Howdy Miller,<br>
><br>
> the macOS 10.10+ build is working fine and supports both x86_64 &<br>
> arm64. I think you can remove the link to my previous 0.52-1<br>
> arm64-only build on the download page.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Great to know that, so let me see if I get it straight. If you have an <br>
> apple silicon, it'll run under the hood the?arm code and then it will <br>
> only find and load 'arm64' externals? Or can you load both externals <br>
> types? How does it work?<br>
><br>
> Oh, and Miller's site should say it is a universal binary ready for <br>
> the new macs!<br>
><br>
> cheers<br>
><br>
><br>
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Em s?b., 26 de mar. de 2022 ?s 03:46, IOhannes m zm?lnig <<a href="mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at">zmoelnig@iem.at</a>><br>
escreveu:<br>
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> > yeah, that's great. I have a n external that does that [slice]<br>
><br>
> yeah. and zexy has [niagara] that does this.<br>
> my git history only reaches back to 2002, and it was there back then.<br>
><br>
> but i was really talking about [list split] here.<br>
><br>
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For the record, my reasoning was: "*I know there are externals but this is<br>
such an important feature that we shouldn't rely on externals for that and<br>
have a native solution instead (I have made an external for that myself and<br>
would gladly remove it from my library)*." I wasn't bragging about<br>
externals I have or promoting them, sorry if I gave that idea...<br>
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> >><br>
> > yup, this is the issue, when splitting a file with a space, like<br>
> > *Users/porres/Desktop/rename\<br>
> > copy.pd*<br>
> ><br>
> > I get:<br>
> ><br>
> > list / Users porres Desktop *list\ rename\ copy.pd*<br>
> ><br>
> > so for the file name I actually get *symbol list\ rename\ copy.pd*<br>
><br>
> not for me.<br>
> could you please provide a patch that shows this problem (without also<br>
> requiring a copy of your harddisk; that is: the filename-with-space<br>
> should be stored in the patch), and attach it to your bug-report.<br>
><br>
> gfmds<br>
> IOhannes<br>
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