<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Ok, cool. I will try it.<br><br><div dir="ltr">enohp ym morf tnes<div>-----------</div><div>Dan Wilcox</div><div>danomatika.com</div><div>robotcowboy.com</div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 14, 2022, at 7:52 PM, Sebastian Shader <sebfumaster@aol.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<div> <font size="2">In the PR there should be a horizontal scrollbar already. The max number of panes displayed at a time should be around 5 (with a scrollbar on the bottom)</font></div>
<div><font size="2">(this can be changed by setting </font><span class="blob-code-inner blob-code-marker js-code-nav-pass " data-code-marker="+">::helpbrowser::maxcols<font size="2"> to something other than 4 though)</font></span></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font size="2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com><br>
To: composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com <composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com><br>
Cc: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at>; Sebastian Shader <sebfumaster@aol.com><br>
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2022 7:25 am<br>
Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser<br>
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<div>Yes, it is a current limitation.
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<div class="yiv2150914413">For now, you can tell them to double click on any folder name at any level in the browser and it should open that folder within their system's file browser. This is true with any entry in the help browser, ie. double click on am html file and it should open in the system's default web browser.
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<div class="yiv2150914413">I intend to look at the PR again and see if it's possible to resolve the visual issues. The better solution is to encase the columns within a horz scroller because the next complaint/observation will certainly be "I can open 10+ browser cols but the whole window no longer fits on my screen!"<br class="yiv2150914413">
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<div class="yiv2150914413">On Aug 13, 2022, at 8:59 AM, <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at" class="yiv2150914413">pd-list-request@lists.iem.at</a> wrote:</div>
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<div class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Message: 3</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 06:49:08 +0000 (UTC)</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">From: Sebastian Shader <</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:sebfumaster@aol.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:sebfumaster@aol.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">sebfumaster@aol.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">To: "</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">" <</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">>,</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413Apple-tab-span"> </span><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">"</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">" <</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Subject: Re: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Message-ID: <</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">1300995413.1266499.1660373348161@mail.yahoo.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Hi,??? You can see this PR:<span class="yiv2150914413Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1240</a><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">unfortunately I'm not sure how to resolve the flickering issue mentioned. However, I included the PR in my pd fork regardless:</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">https://github.com/sebshader/pdnext/releases</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">(if on linux you have to compile yourself.. use the current master branch)alternatively, you might be able to just take helpbrowser.tcl from my PR and move it into your pd install location (wherever the .tcl files are)</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">-seb</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">-----Original Message-----</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">From: Samuel Burt <</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">composer.samuel.burt@gmail.com</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">To: Pd-list <</span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" target="_blank" href="mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at" style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" class="yiv2150914413">pd-list@lists.iem.at</a><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2022 10:45 am</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Subject: [PD] Max number of panels in Help Browser</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Is the Help Browser limited to showing only six panels? or is this a limitation of one's desktop environment?</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">I'm considering switching from pd-tutorial to using the else library for teaching Pd fundamentals, but the else library has directories like<span class="yiv2150914413Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">else/Live-Electronics-Tutorial/Part.01-The.Basics/01-Pd.Quickstart/2.Syntax/3.Send-Receive/<span class="yiv2150914413Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">and then my Help Browser won't show the contents of the next directory. I'm using Pop_OS whose COSMIC desktop is based on Gnome.</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Thanks for any suggestions. I really want to make this really easy for the students.</span><br style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;" class="yiv2150914413"><span style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline !important;" class="yiv2150914413">Sam</span></div>
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