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Thank you for your suggestions...<br>
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Further and further testing I found the potential culprit which
seems to be [operating_system] from the Zexy library.<br>
This object even not connected but just present in my patch is
crashing both my project + Pd Vanilla when I try to reopen my SMS
Vanilla project.<br>
It's still a very weird behavior as it's working when Pd is launched
from a terminal with "puredata - stderr" command line.<br>
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I will report this issue to <font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace">IOhannes.</font><br>
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Best, Joe<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 26/01/2023 à 17:36, José Rafael
Subía Valdez a écrit :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">2 things you can try,
<div>1. be sure to disable any loadbangs (this can be done with
a flag) like this <span
style="background-color:rgb(222,231,236);color:black;font-family:Monaco,"Courier
New",Courier,monospace;font-size:13.376px">-noloadbang</span></div>
<div>2. run your patch via terminal to possibly catch more
information.</div>
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<div>so.. open terminal and type </div>
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<div>pd -noloadbang file.pd</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 11:27
AM Linux ROUEN Normandie <<a
href="mailto:linux.rouen@free.fr" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">linux.rouen@free.fr</a>>
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<div> <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Hello
List,<br>
I'm looking for some help from experienced users, at least
more than I. 😉<br>
<br>
PROBLEM: I'm facing to an annoying issue I never had
before with only one of my projects under development:
Simple MIDI Sequencer (SMS) Vanilla. Means my problem
could be externals related?<br>
Up to the last days everything was okay, but after a day
of modifications I saved a last time my project, and...<br>
Now after having launched Pd Vanilla v.0.53.1 (PPA
install) and then opening my project both immediately
close automatically (which is not the case with my other
projects).<br>
<br>
I'm running under Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 64-bit (Ubuntu
22.04 LTS base) and I'm using objects from the following 8
Externals (Deken install):<br>
Cyclone 0.6.1, Else 1.0.0 rc6, Ggee 0.28, IemLib 1.22.2,
Jmmmp 0.61.0, List-Abs 0.1.0, PdOgg 0.25 and Zexy 2.4.1
(they are supposed to be up to date).<br>
<br>
As you can see here-after "puredata" or "puredata
-verbose" are not working BUT "puredata -stderr" is
working. Weird, isn't it!<br>
<br>
Any thoughts and/or search directions are more than the
welcome.<br>
Thank you.<br>
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Best,<br>
Joe @ Rouen - FR<br>
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</font><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">1st Test / </font>Launching
from a Terminal => Not working<br>
------------------------------------<br>
joe@mint21:~$ puredata -or- puredata -verbose<br>
Pd-0.53.1 ("") compiled for Debian
(0.53.1+ds-1~ubuntu22.04~ppa1) on 2022/12/15 at 22:02:06
UTC<br>
float precision = 32 bits<br>
port 34801<br>
TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/puredata/lib/tcl/library"
TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/puredata/lib/tk/library" wish
"/usr/lib/puredata/tcl//pd-gui.tcl" 34801<br>
Waiting for connection request... <br>
... connected<br>
/usr/lib/puredata/bin/pd-watchdog<br>
.....<br>
Then opening my SMS Vanilla project from with Pd Vanilla
immediately closes both Pd and my project.<br>
So, same bad behavior than in my above introduction but
now with a "segmentation error" indication!<br>
.....<br>
==> Erreur de segmentation (core dumped); i.e.
segmentation error<br>
joe@mint21:~$<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">2nd Test / </font>Launching
from a Terminal => Working okay<br>
------------------------------------<br>
Very strange thing here by just adding "-stderr" I'm able
to run, modify and save my project without any issue.<br>
Note1: Now the same is also true in pure graphic mode if
I'm adding "-stderr" to Pd Startup options, but with no
output in the Pd Console.<br>
<br>
Note2: In the here-below long terminal output I removed
the unnecessary stuff like all the kind of "verbose(4):
tried ./cyclone.l_amd64 and FAILED" (about hundreds and
hundreds and hundreds of objects).<br>
<br>
joe@mint21:~$ puredata -stderr<br>
Pd-0.53.1 ("") compiled for Debian
(0.53.1+ds-1~ubuntu22.04~ppa1) on 2022/12/15 at 22:02:06
UTC<br>
float precision = 32 bits<br>
verbose(4): input channels = 2, output channels = 2<br>
port 35797<br>
TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/puredata/lib/tcl/library"
TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/puredata/lib/tk/library" wish
"/usr/lib/puredata/tcl//pd-gui.tcl" 35797<br>
Waiting for connection request... <br>
verbose(4): running at normal (non-real-time) priority.<br>
... connected<br>
verbose(4): priority 6 scheduling enabled.<br>
verbose(4): running at normal (non-real-time) priority.<br>
/usr/lib/puredata/bin/pd-watchdog<br>
opened alsa MIDI client 128 in:1 out:1<br>
<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/cyclone/cyclone.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
.....<br>
:: Cyclone 0.6-1 needs at least Pd 0.52-0 (you have
0.53-1, you're good!)<br>
.....<br>
--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/else.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
.....<br>
- ELSE 1.0-0 rc-6 needs at least Pd 0.53-1 (you have
0.53-1, you're good!)<br>
.....<br>
-------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/iemlib/iemlib.pd_linux and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): warning: class 'wrap' overwritten; old one
renamed 'wrap_aliased'<br>
iemlib (1.22) library loaded! (c) Thomas Musil Nov 13
2018 : 20:19:12<br>
<a href="mailto:musil@iem.at" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">musil@iem.at</a>
iem KUG Graz Austria<br>
<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/zexy/zexy.pd_linux and
succeeded<br>
♡♡♡<br>
♡ the zexy external 2.4.1<br>
♡ (c) 1999-2012 IOhannes m zmölnig<br>
♡ forum::für::umläute<br>
♡ iem @ kug<br>
♡ compiled Feb 2 2022<br>
♡ send me a 'help' message<br>
♡♡♡<br>
<br>
verbose(4): warning: class '<~' overwritten; old one
renamed '<~_aliased'<br>
verbose(4): warning: class '==~' overwritten; old one
renamed '==~_aliased'<br>
verbose(4): warning: class '>~' overwritten; old one
renamed '>~_aliased'<br>
verbose(4): warning: class 'abs~' overwritten; old one
renamed 'abs~_aliased'<br>
matchbox: OSC-pattern matching code (c) Matt Wright, CNMAT<br>
verbose(4): warning: class 'wrap' overwritten; old one
renamed 'wrap_aliased'<br>
<br>
=> After opening my SMS Vanilla project from within
Pure Data:<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-rev.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-rev.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-drip.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-drip.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-rev.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-drip.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/out~.pd and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/out~.pd and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/lb.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/op~.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/initmess.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/jmmmp/clock.pd and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/jmmmp/clock.pd and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/midi.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/cyclone/midiflush.l_amd64
and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/cyclone/midiparse.l_amd64
and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/cyclone/midiformat.l_amd64
and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/keyboard.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-rev.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-drip.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/pitch2note.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/pitch2note.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/router.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/args.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/floor.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/selector.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/format.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/iterate.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/iterate.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/group.pd and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/group.pd and succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/rint.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/pdogg/oggwrite~.pd_linux and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): oggwrite~: ogg/vorbis recorder version 0.1c,
written by Olaf Matthes<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-rev.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/list-abs/list-drip.pd and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): tried
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/sfont~.l_amd64 and
succeeded<br>
verbose(4): input channels = 2, output channels = 2<br>
verbose(4): alsa: 9 blocks of 128 samples, total advance
25<br>
verbose(4): opened input device name hw:0<br>
verbose(4): configuring sound input...<br>
verbose(4): Sample width set to 4 bytes<br>
verbose(4): configuring sound output...<br>
verbose(4): Sample width set to 4 bytes<br>
saved to:
/media/joe/DATA_UNIX/PROJECTS/Pure-Data/patchs/SMS-Vanilla/simple-midi-sequencer-vanilla-0152.pd<br>
joe@mint21:~$ <br>
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