<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Oh Man!<br><br>Really sorry for my laziness. I just opened it and saw your name!!¬!<br>Listen, we're really grateful for your support. There aren't enough books about Pure Data programming out there, and I'm sure my students will find this really helpful.<br><br>Once again, I think the person you need to talk to is Hans Cristoph-Steiner, but I am sure he'll read this thread. <br><br>Nice to meet you Antonio, even if it was slightly cack-handed from my end ;-)<br><br>Ed<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div>Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad<br>http://www.ninjajamm.com/</div><div><br><br></div><div>Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!<br>http://sharktracks.co.uk/ </div><div
style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 15:15, Antonio Roberts <antonio@hellocatfood.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>> I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No mention of Antonio Roberts!<br>I'm one of the tech reviewers ;-)<br><br>> Well in that case I apologise. Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd<br>> already published a book with them (blushing).<br>I didn't publish the book, just did a
tech review of it. As I briefly <br>said in a comment in the G+ thread, it wasn't a bad experience but not <br>a great one either. I considered it a good way to give back to the <br>community (yes, I know you have to buy the book) and get my name "out <br>there", but now that I've done it once I won't be doing it again and <br>definitely not for them ;-)<br><br>(on a separate note I'm also thinking about reviving the Pure Data <br>Documentation Project)<br><br>To me it seems like Packt are a legitimate business but aer telling a <br>few porkies with regards to royalties<br><br>On Tue 19 Nov 2013 14:24:23 GMT, Julian Brooks wrote:<br>> Hey Ed (& Antonio),<br>><br>> Well in that case I apologise. Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd<br>> already published a book with them (blushing).<br>><br>> My first comment was more from a reading of the original link that<br>> Antonio forwarded. And from that, Packt look well
suss.<br>><br>> There's certainly no shortage of dodgy publishers about (nor record<br>> labels for that matter) - guess it depends on the deal you can wangle.<br>><br>><br>> On 19 November 2013 14:00, Ed Kelly <<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> PS Antonio, nice favicon :)<br>><br>> Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune<br>> and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad<br>> <a href="http://www.ninjajamm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ninjajamm.com/</a><br>><br>><br>> Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!<br>> <a href="http://sharktracks.co.uk/"
target="_blank">http://sharktracks.co.uk/</a><br>><br>><br>> On , Ed Kelly <<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> Damn - they changed Yahoo mail recently and I can't seem to<br>> find it. However, www.hellocatfood.com<br>> <<a href="http://www.hellocatfood.com/" target="_blank">http://www.hellocatfood.com</a>> does indeed seem to be genuine,<br>> and Antonio does indeed seem to be a performer with multimedia<br>> performer using Pure Data.<br>><br>> This doesn't look like a hack, but "free money" should
always<br>> be treated with suspicion I'm sure.<br>><br>> Probably the best way forward is for one of us to get in touch<br>> with Packt publishing and request clarification.<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>> Ed<br>><br>> Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja<br>> Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad<br>> <a href="http://www.ninjajamm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ninjajamm.com/</a><br>><br>><br>> Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with<br>> dynamics!<br>> <a href="http://sharktracks.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://sharktracks.co.uk/</a><br>><br>><br>>
On , Ed Kelly <<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> Hmm. I couldn't get the post Antonio was referring to in<br>> his email. This could be a very sophisticated form of<br>> phishing I suppose. Apologies for my naivety!<br>><br>> I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in<br>> front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No<br>> mention of Antonio Roberts!<br>><br>>
I'll just take a look at the header for the email and get<br>> back to you. Let's not take too much time in dealing with<br>> this.<br>><br>> Ed<br>> Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from<br>> Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad<br>> <a href="http://www.ninjajamm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ninjajamm.com/</a><br>><br>><br>> Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with<br>> dynamics!<br>> <a href="http://sharktracks.co.uk/"
target="_blank">http://sharktracks.co.uk/</a><br>><br>><br>> On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 13:41, Julian Brooks<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com" href="mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com">jbeezez@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com" href="mailto:jbeezez@gmail.com">jbeezez@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> Is this some kind of so-dry-I-don't-get-it humour 'cos<br>> they look well suss<br>><br>> J<br>><br>><br>> On 19 November 2013 13:21, Ed Kelly<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk"
href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a><br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk">morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> Wow!<br>><br>> Is the Pd foundation up and running? I haven't<br>> followed the news (if there is any) regarding this.<br>><br>> Perhaps this is within your scope Hans?<br>><br>> Ed<br>><br>> Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix
app<br>> from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad<br>> <a href="http://www.ninjajamm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ninjajamm.com/</a><br>><br>><br>> Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data,<br>> now with dynamics!<br>> <a href="http://sharktracks.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://sharktracks.co.uk/</a><br>><br>><br>> On Monday, 18 November 2013, 19:53, Antonio<br>> Roberts <<a ymailto="mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com"
href="mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com">antonio@hellocatfood.com</a><br>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com" href="mailto:antonio@hellocatfood.com">antonio@hellocatfood.com</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> A representative of Packt Publishing recently<br>> put out a call to<br>> developers of open source software packages<br>> that are covered in their<br>> books to get in contact regarding royalties.<br>>
They claim that they give<br>> money to the authors _and_ the project that<br>> the book is based upon.<br>> Text below:<br>><br>> "I'm sorry that we haven't yet been able to<br>> make this clear. I will<br>> have this looked in to and revised for clarity.<br>> But, to confirm, authors receive
royalties on<br>> sales of their books but<br>> we also give a royalty, where the book is<br>> based on an Open Source<br>> software or system, to the Project.<br>> I'm not at liberty to disclose the names of<br>> projects that have<br>> received this royalty, only that cumulatively<br>>
we have given out a<br>> large sum of money to them.<br>> Please also treat this as a call out to any<br>> Open Source project that<br>> we have published on to get in touch with me<br>> should they not be<br>> receiving their royalties, we can only send<br>> them to you if we have<br>>
your details :) "<br>><br>> Full thread here:<br>> <a href="https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir" target="_blank">https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir</a><br>> <<a href="https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir" target="_blank">https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir</a>>See<br>> last comment from Jonathan Titmus<br>><br>> --<br>>
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