[Pdweb] portal - design

[Frank Barknecht]

Hallo,
Michael Zeltner hat gesagt: // Michael Zeltner wrote:

> Frank Barknecht wrote:
> >Hallo,
> heyho ;)
> 
> >Actually I think, that no one is currently working on the graphical
> >side. I would like to change the logo someday, because the color(s)
> >just doesn't match the rest of the page. 
> 
> okay, so i'll set up an instance with a new design (is there a pd.org 
> ci? 

What's a "ci"? What happens to pd.org content and design-wise is
bysically decided here on this list, but as IEM hosts the site, all
technical things have to go through them, i.e. Winfried Ritsch. I
don't know IEM's plan's regarding a migration to plone 2.0, but at
least for pd.org it might not be a big problem: We don't have much
content yet and the skin is almost the default.

> or can i do "what i want"? logo too?) as prosposal.

It would be nice to see a proposal in advance, so nobody feels bad
with it, but until now nobody has done much graphics anyway. 

> i can show you a kind of a graphical portfolio if you want me to.
> 
> don't expect me to finish the portal within the next two weeks, i'm 
> currently very busy :)
> 
> >(I think it was planned to make a whole skin, but it didn't work out
> >yet obviously). 
> 
> making skins for plone 1.0 is very risky. the 1.0 skin architecture was 
> pure hell, so migrating from a heavily changed 1.0 skin will be nearly 
> impossible... 2.0 is much more modular. but as i said, most of the time, 
> changes to the templates aren't necessary because nearly everything is 
> changeable with css.
> 
> >Is your skin visible somewhere?
> 
> you can test the skin with the plone 2.0b1 tarball or just see it on 
> test.plone.org. it looks like plone looked in 1.0 (because a part of 
> plone is it's ui) but the code is different: accessible (wcag-aaa - 
> section 508) and flexible (tableless - more ids/classes - more semantic 
> code block positions, id allocation, classification).

This sounds very good. I tried to get the grips on skinning pd.org and
seeing dtml once again made me stop rather immediatly, although I'm a
bit comfortable with the CMF (if you search the CMF mailing list
archives from waaaay back - ~5 years ago -, you might still find my
name there ;)

Fortunatly web standards have come a long way since then, too, so it's
good to hear that Plone goes CSS skinning, like on csszengarden.com
which you have linked, too.

ciao
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__