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    Hello,<br>
    <br>
    The proposition i made is totally open to discussion and correction
    (my english is a bit crappy...)<br>
    <br>
    I did not mention libpd or pd-anywhere cause there is no mention of
    any pd projects in the text i've submitted: no Gem, no Pd-extended.
    In this case, i see no reason to only mention libpd.<br>
    But you can add a paragraph or a sentence with the main projects
    (and i agree, libpd is one of these)<br>
    <br>
    I am totally against making publicity for electronic arts in this
    text: keep in mind that it may be a copied text in many different
    contexts to introduce pd.<br>
    <br>
    You're right, it lacks a paragraph describing how a user work with
    pd. Maybe between the second and the third ones?<br>
    <br>
    Best<br>
    n<br>
    <br>
    Le 13/03/12 12:05, Scott R. Looney a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
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cite="mid:CAAo07Q0UPJJTMSW5zqWGCVXPFdkExKQ_V689xJgCtCFpDeAoWg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">agreed &nbsp;- libpd and pd-anywhere should be mentioned
      (though pd-anywhere is getting a bit old these days). how about
      something saying it being the sound engine of the top selling game
      Spore?
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      <div>scott<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Marco
          Donnarumma <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:devel@thesaddj.com">devel@thesaddj.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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            looks good to me,
            <div>but we don't want to mention libpd or pd-anywhere?</div>
            <div><br>
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            <div>that's a strong feature of Pd that not many other
              software have.</div>
            <div>If it's political, then let's discuss it, but I think
              ppl should know about this.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Also, the text (and also the old one) do not mention
              anything about how really Pd works.</div>
            <div>And I would like to see it mentioned on the home page.</div>
            <div>It doesn't make much sense that if someone wants to do
              what Pd does, he has to go round the website looking for
              info.</div>
            <div>It should be clearly stated in the homepage imho...</div>
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            <div>thoughts?</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:07
                    AM, Nicolas Montgermont <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr"
                        target="_blank">nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Sorry I'm
                        very busy at the moment and can't do as much as
                        I want.<br>
                        <br>
                        Here is a proposition for a new intro text:<br>
                        <br>
                        Pure Data (aka Pd) is a real-time graphical
                        programming environment for audio, video, and
                        graphical processing. It is the third major
                        branch of the family of patcher programming
                        languages known as Max originally developed by
                        Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM. The core
                        of Pd is written and maintained by Miller
                        Puckette and includes the work of many
                        developers, making the whole package very much a
                        community effort.<br>
                        <br>
                        Pd was created to explore ideas of how to
                        further refine the Max paradigm with the core
                        ideas of allowing data to be treated in a more
                        open-ended way and opening it up to applications
                        outside of audio and MIDI. Pd offers a wide
                        exploration field : realtime multimedia creation
                        (sound, video, 3D), physical interfacing
                        (sensors, kinect, joystick), motor control, data
                        computing... and is used by a diverse community
                        of people: musicians, visual artist,
                        researchers, developers, performers... <br>
                        <br>
                        Pd is a free open source software software and
                        is designed to be easily extended by writing
                        patches ("abstractions") or new objects
                        ("externals") . The work of many developers is
                        available as part of the standard Pd packages
                        and the Pd developer community is increasingly
                        growing.&nbsp; Pd was written to be multi-platform
                        and therefore is very portable; versions exist
                        for Win32, IRIX, GNU/Linux, BSD, and MacOS X
                        running on anything from a PocketPC to an old
                        Mac to a brand new smartphone. <br>
                        <br>
                        This Pd-Portal<br>
                        This site is a contribution of the IEM to the Pd
                        community. Everybody using Pd is welcomed to
                        join and write/contribute some documentation,
                        reports, news, announcing events and add
                        comments.<br>
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                        n<br>
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                        Le 12/03/12 11:45, Marco Donnarumma a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
                        <blockquote type="cite">
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                            <div>So, I'm fiddling with the home page.
                              <div>The textual content is clearly out of
                                date.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>I just moved up and down some
                                paragraphs to give prominence to the
                                real thing first, and the geeky thing
                                after.</div>
                              <div>Also added a mention about libpd and
                                rjdj which was missing.</div>
                              <div>If there's anything political about
                                that let me know and Ill take it out.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>However, we need to reformulate this:</div>
                              <div>"Recent developments include a system
                                of abstractions for building performance
                                environments; a library of objects for
                                physical modeling; and a library of
                                objects for generating and processing
                                video in realtime."</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>These are the "recent" developments
                                from 2009 I take it.</div>
                              <div>Is somebody willing to reformulate
                                this statements making it more related
                                to present advances?<br clear="all">
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I'm looking for some pics, possibly
                                  keeping the same subject of the old
                                  pictures.</div>
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                                -- <br>
                                Marco Donnarumma<br>
                                New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner,
                                Performer, Teacher, Director.<br>
                                ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research
                                (ongoing)<br>
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                  New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer,
                  Teacher, Director.<br>
                  ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)<br>
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